On 14 Apr 2009, at 17:44, Chris Gates wrote:
No Glen, it isn't negative, just realistic (lets make this clear...
I do the negative posts around here {grin}). In my 35 years of
getting paid to program I haven't yet had a boss or client that said
"Take your time, whenever it is ready will be fine!" (I have
fantasies of finding this client {lol}) If working at Intel means
no due dates then where do I send my resume!!
lol, sounds like nirvana.
Some of us have clients who are waiting for a mobile Linux OS for
inclusion in real products, when we don't have dates to give our
clients they get nervous and want to jump ship to some other OS.
Even to products that look to be complete "vaporware" (such as
Android for mobile computing) because these products are quoting
time frames for release with lots of media fanfare that our client's
read and believe!
So in my case I keep trying to calm the fears of my client and tell
them to be patient, but this wont last forever, and I can't really
blame them. (I get daily emails asking about an IVI BSP release,
from one of my clients!)
Well, my position isn't possibly as pressing, but it's priority is
increasing daily and will shortly become pressing. One of my targets
for this year Q2/Q3 is to move to an up to date platform. Originally
scheduled as an evolution of our current Fedora platform base.
However, as Moblin has progressed and various opportunities have come
up for us with hardware vendors, the idea of moving to Moblin as our
base platform has become more appealing to me and certainly I could
see it being a significant advantage for us. However, at the moment,
I'm kind of in no mans land as regards knowing where to go and how to
proceed. If I do decide to migrate to Moblin V2 then I'll possibly be
in a position where I'll have rebuild and host the repository
internally. We've a significant install base of existing customers
using "legacy" low power intel setups (Celeron M's clocked at 600Mhz
or 1.0Ghz). These customers will expect to be able to upgrade to
future iterations of our product releases. And realistically these
devices will be initial target for the upgraded software. We're also
expecting delivery of new Atom based (I'm guessing Menlow platforms,
I'm not to familiar with all the product/platform names) hardware this
year, so juggling this could be difficult.
I guess what I am trying to say is that if the Moblin team doesn't
have to work towards due dates, that is wonderful for them, but the
rest of the world does and it makes it difficult for us (the Moblin
fanatics) to sell the idea of Moblin to the people who fund our
development activities without time frames.
So anything you can do to help us sell Moblin to the "bean counters"
is appreciated (recent developer posts to this forum have been great
fodder to forward on to the clients adn has given me a little
breathing room).
Well, I think that there has been some useful glimpses under the
moblin kimono in this thread. I'd like to see a consistent effort on
behalf of the people driving this project to keep as much information
as regards planning, ideas, proposals etc. as public as possible.
There's obviously a lot of clever people behind Moblins development.
There's obviously a lot of well thought out technical goals. It would
be great if we all had a clear understanding of all that though. At
the moment it's all very "trust us, we've something special coming".
Keeping everything to yourself, no matter how cool it is, won't foster
a community. I accept that this is a whole new architecture and that
there's a certain amount of r&d going into some of the planned
features. But, like I've mentioned, we, the public/community haven't
got a clear list of what those planned features are. However, I'll be
patient. I many end up having to decide against Moblin V2 for the
short term as I'm likely to have to make some final decisions on this
in the next 2 weeks. If I do have to skip this release, I may still
move in the Moblin direction for later in the year, especially when we
do get our Atom based hardware. We'll see I guess.
Kind Regards,
--
Glen Gray <[email protected]> Digital Depot, Thomas Street
Software Engineering Manager Dublin 8, Ireland
Lincor Solutions Ltd. Ph: +353 (0) 1 4893682
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