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On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 1:30 PM Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Xiaojing and Li, > > Right, the AutoML and security would be interesting and important > directions for a popular memory library project. > I think it is crucial to design a successful library with ML usability and > security in mind at the very beginning. > We may need to further find a path to maximize the contribution to those > promising applications. > > Thanks. > Gordon. > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 12:02 AM Li Shen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > +1 > > adding features to support AI is a good direction. Would we also consider > > some security enhancements such as nonvolatile memory encryption? > > > > Thanks, > > Li > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 4:30 PM Xiaojin Jiao <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Another direction could be enhancing our platform to have some AI-based > >> memory management capability, like this one: Machine Learning Makes > Memory > >> Management More Efficient | College of Computing (gatech.edu) > >> < > >> > https://www.cc.gatech.edu/news/623810/machine-learning-makes-memory-management-more-efficient > >> > > >> A wild thought :), AutoML is quite popular lately, we could think about > >> if > >> it's possible to push our library into an AutoML library to help it > manage > >> the memory. > >> ------ > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> > >> Xiaojin Jiao > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 12:51 PM Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Thanks Zhen. > >> > Right, it is also the most challenging technique we are going to > >> achieve. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:45 AM rhythmwind <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > +1. Agree with Xiaojin's idea. > >> > > > >> > > If mnemonic project could provid a cost effective way to meet speed > >> and > >> > > capacity required by ever increasing demand of ML models, it will be > >> much > >> > > attractive. > >> > > > >> > > Thanks Zhen > >> > > > >> > > -------- Original message -------- > >> > > From: Gordon <[email protected]> > >> > > Date: 3/21/24 10:16 AM (GMT-08:00) > >> > > To: [email protected], [email protected] > >> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] The new direction for project Mnemonic > >> > > > >> > > Thank you Xiaojing and Chenyang. > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:10 AM Chenyang Li < > [email protected] > >> > > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Ok sound good to me then > >> > > > > >> > > > +1 > >> > > > > >> > > > < = > > >> > > > LESS IS MORE > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 6:18 PM Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Chenyang, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > You are right, how to optimize the ML/AI workload through > >> > non-volatile > >> > > > > objects is a big challenge. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I saw some successful efforts on this domain, for example, > Apache > >> > Arrow > >> > > > > provided optimized dataframe and numpy array to accelerate the > >> data > >> > > > > processing, while they do have DLPack protocol to improve the > >> > > efficiency > >> > > > of > >> > > > > tensors and arrays exchange between major frameworks. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > So that's why I think we might find the similar path to ML/AI > >> > > workloads, > >> > > > > thanks. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Best regards > >> > > > > Gordon > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:01 AM Chenyang Li < > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ml/ai will be interesting to add, but the problem is I don’t > >> see a > >> > > > clear > >> > > > > > interception from Mnemonic project. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Does anybody have any ideas on this? > >> > > > > > Chenyang > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > < = > > >> > > > > > LESS IS MORE > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 9:58 AM Gordon <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Mnemonic contributors and PMCs, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > As the benefits of non-volatile memory technology are very > >> > limited > >> > > on > >> > > > > its > >> > > > > > > own, we may need to consider developing some applications to > >> > > present > >> > > > > it, > >> > > > > > > such as ML/AI. so I would like to call a vote to make a > >> community > >> > > > wide > >> > > > > > > decision on this new direction for Mnemonic, please vote, > and > >> we > >> > > can > >> > > > > > > definitely do further discussion on it after it, thanks. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Please vote accordingly, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > [] +1 approve > >> > > > > > > [] +0 no opinion > >> > > > > > > [] -1 disapprove with a reason > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thank you all for your participation. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best, > >> > > > > > > Gordon > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:56 PM Gordon <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sander, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sorry for the late reply, I submitted the report for the > >> > Mnemonic > >> > > > > > > > community and will discuss with our PMCs to make a > decision > >> on > >> > > the > >> > > > > > > > direction of our project/community, thanks. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best regards > >> > > > > > > > Gordon. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 6:19 AM Sander Striker < > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Dear Mnemonic community, > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> In the Apache governance model, the ASF board delegates > >> > > > > responsibility > >> > > > > > > for > >> > > > > > > >> managing projects to PMCs. This allows projects to govern > >> > > > > themselves, > >> > > > > > in > >> > > > > > > >> terms > >> > > > > > > >> of their own development goals, guidelines, and volunteer > >> > > spirit, > >> > > > > > within > >> > > > > > > >> the > >> > > > > > > >> scope of our purpose as an open source foundation. The > >> state > >> > > > allows > >> > > > > us > >> > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > >> supply an umbrella of corporate protection to our > projects > >> and > >> > > > > > > >> volunteers, but > >> > > > > > > >> only to the extent that we retain active and effective > >> > oversight > >> > > > of > >> > > > > > each > >> > > > > > > >> project's operation on behalf of the public's interest. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> To enable the board to provide oversight across the > >> > foundation, > >> > > > each > >> > > > > > PMC > >> > > > > > > >> is > >> > > > > > > >> tasked with providing the board a quarterly report on the > >> > health > >> > > > of > >> > > > > > > their > >> > > > > > > >> project. This allows us to hear your heartbeat, to see > the > >> > > project > >> > > > > > > through > >> > > > > > > >> your eyes, and to inform the public through our meeting > >> > minutes. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> The board has noticed that the reports for Mnemonic have > >> been > >> > > > missed > >> > > > > > > >> for a number of months. This makes us sad because we have > >> lost > >> > > > that > >> > > > > > > >> ability > >> > > > > > > >> to communicate with you, to see what may be preventing > your > >> > good > >> > > > > > health, > >> > > > > > > >> and to ensure that we are providing the services that you > >> need > >> > > to > >> > > > > > > continue > >> > > > > > > >> as an Apache project. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> The reports to the board are normally written by the PMC > >> chair > >> > > but > >> > > > > all > >> > > > > > > PMC > >> > > > > > > >> members have an individual responsibility to ensure that > a > >> > > report > >> > > > is > >> > > > > > > >> submitted. If the PMC chair is not available then any PMC > >> > member > >> > > > can > >> > > > > > > >> submit > >> > > > > > > >> the report. If you need help with this process, please > >> reach > >> > out > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > >> [email protected] > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> Please ensure that a report for Mnemonic is submitted to > >> the > >> > > board > >> > > > > > > >> for the next meeting on Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 21:00 UTC. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> If the PMC chair is not going to be available for an > >> extended > >> > > > period > >> > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > >> time, > >> > > > > > > >> it may make sense to rotate the PMC chair. Rotating the > PMC > >> > > chair > >> > > > > does > >> > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > >> mean the current chair has failed. People's situations > and > >> > > > interests > >> > > > > > > >> change; > >> > > > > > > >> rotation is good as it allows more people to become > >> familiar > >> > > with > >> > > > > that > >> > > > > > > >> role. > >> > > > > > > >> Again, if assistance is required with this process, > please > >> > feel > >> > > > free > >> > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > >> reach out to [email protected] > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> As projects mature, they will naturally reach a point > where > >> > > > activity > >> > > > > > > >> reduces > >> > > > > > > >> to a level that the project is no longer sustainable. At > >> > Apache, > >> > > > > > > projects > >> > > > > > > >> reach this stage when there are no longer 3 active PMC > >> members > >> > > > > > providing > >> > > > > > > >> oversight. Projects that reach this stage are placed in > our > >> > > Attic, > >> > > > > > where > >> > > > > > > >> they continue to be accessible to the public but are not > >> > > portrayed > >> > > > > as > >> > > > > > > >> having > >> > > > > > > >> an active community for maintenance. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> http://attic.apache.org/ > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> If Mnemonic has reached this point, please reach out to > the > >> > > Attic > >> > > > > > > project > >> > > > > > > >> to arrange transfer. On the other hand, if your project > is > >> > > mostly > >> > > > > > > dormant > >> > > > > > > >> but > >> > > > > > > >> still has at least three active PMC members, it can > remain > >> in > >> > > that > >> > > > > > state > >> > > > > > > >> for > >> > > > > > > >> as long as needed. If your project is in such a state, > >> please > >> > > > > mention > >> > > > > > > >> that in > >> > > > > > > >> your report and verify the PMC's state at regular > >> intervals. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> Finally, if you have any questions, please feel free to > >> reach > >> > > out > >> > > > to > >> > > > > > > >> [email protected]. > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks, > >> > > > > > > >> The ASF Board > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >
