+1. Agree with Xiaojin's idea. If mnemonic project could provid a cost 
effective way to meet speed and capacity required by ever increasing demand of 
ML models, it will be much attractive.Thanks Zhen
-------- Original message --------From: Gordon <[email protected]> Date: 
3/21/24  10:16 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected], 
[email protected] Subject: Re: [VOTE] The new direction for project 
Mnemonic Thank you Xiaojing and Chenyang.On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 8:10 AM 
Chenyang Li <[email protected]>wrote:> Ok sound good to me then>> +1>>   
      < = >> LESS IS MORE>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 6:18 PM Gordon 
<[email protected]> wrote:>> > Hi Chenyang,> >> > You are right, how to 
optimize the ML/AI workload through non-volatile> > objects is a big 
challenge.> >> > I saw some successful efforts on this domain, for example, 
Apache Arrow> > provided optimized dataframe and numpy array to accelerate the 
data> > processing, while they do have DLPack protocol to improve the 
efficiency> of> > tensors and arrays exchange between major frameworks.> >> > 
So that's why I think we might find the similar path to ML/AI workloads,> > 
thanks.> >> > Best regards> > Gordon> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:01 AM 
Chenyang Li <[email protected]>> > wrote:> >> > > Ml/ai will be 
interesting to add, but the problem is I don’t see a> clear> > > interception 
from Mnemonic project.> > >> > > Does anybody have any ideas on this?> > > 
Chenyang> > >> > >         < = >> > > LESS IS MORE> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 
18, 2024 at 9:58 AM Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:> > >> > > > Hi Mnemonic 
contributors and PMCs,> > > >> > > > As the benefits of non-volatile memory 
technology are very limited on> > its> > > > own, we may need to consider 
developing some applications to present> > it,> > > > such as ML/AI. so I would 
like to call a vote to make a community> wide> > > > decision on this new 
direction for Mnemonic, please vote, and we can> > > > definitely do further 
discussion on it after it, thanks.> > > >> > > > Please vote accordingly,> > > 
>> > > > [] +1 approve> > > > [] +0 no opinion> > > > [] -1 disapprove  with a 
reason> > > >> > > > Thank you all for your participation.> > > >> > > > Best,> 
> > > Gordon> > > >> > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 11:56 PM Gordon 
<[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > > > > Dear Sander,> > > > >> > > > > Sorry 
for the late reply, I submitted the report for the Mnemonic> > > > > community 
and will discuss with our PMCs to make a decision on the> > > > > direction of 
our project/community, thanks.> > > > >> > > > > Best regards> > > > > Gordon.> 
> > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 6:19 AM Sander Striker 
<[email protected]> >> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> Dear Mnemonic 
community,> > > > >>> > > > >> In the Apache governance model, the ASF board 
delegates> > responsibility> > > > for> > > > >> managing projects to PMCs. 
This allows projects to govern> > themselves,> > > in> > > > >> terms> > > > >> 
of their own development goals, guidelines, and volunteer spirit,> > > within> 
> > > >> the> > > > >> scope of our purpose as an open source foundation. The 
state> allows> > us> > > > to> > > > >> supply an umbrella of corporate 
protection to our projects and> > > > >> volunteers, but> > > > >> only to the 
extent that we retain active and effective oversight> of> > > each> > > > >> 
project's operation on behalf of the public's interest.> > > > >>> > > > >> To 
enable the board to provide oversight across the foundation,> each> > > PMC> > 
> > >> is> > > > >> tasked with providing the board a quarterly report on the 
health> of> > > > their> > > > >> project. This allows us to hear your 
heartbeat, to see the project> > > > through> > > > >> your eyes, and to inform 
the public through our meeting minutes.> > > > >>> > > > >> The board has 
noticed that the reports for Mnemonic have been> missed> > > > >> for a number 
of months. This makes us sad because we have lost> that> > > > >> ability> > > 
> >> to communicate with you, to see what may be preventing your good> > > 
health,> > > > >> and to ensure that we are providing the services that you 
need to> > > > continue> > > > >> as an Apache project.> > > > >>> > > > >> The 
reports to the board are normally written by the PMC chair but> > all> > > > 
PMC> > > > >> members have an individual responsibility to ensure that a 
report> is> > > > >> submitted. If the PMC chair is not available then any PMC 
member> can> > > > >> submit> > > > >> the report. If you need help with this 
process, please reach out> to> > > > >> [email protected]> > > > >>> > > > >> 
Please ensure that a report for Mnemonic is submitted to the board> > > > >> 
for the next meeting on Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 21:00 UTC.> > > > >>> > > > >> If 
the PMC chair is not going to be available for an extended> period> > > of> > > 
> >> time,> > > > >> it may make sense to rotate the PMC chair. Rotating the 
PMC chair> > does> > > > not> > > > >> mean the current chair has failed. 
People's situations and> interests> > > > >> change;> > > > >> rotation is good 
as it allows more people to become familiar with> > that> > > > >> role.> > > > 
>> Again, if assistance is required with this process, please feel> free> > > 
to> > > > >> reach out to [email protected]> > > > >>> > > > >> As projects 
mature, they will naturally reach a point where> activity> > > > >> reduces> > 
> > >> to a level that the project is no longer sustainable. At Apache,> > > > 
projects> > > > >> reach this stage when there are no longer 3 active PMC 
members> > > providing> > > > >> oversight. Projects that reach this stage are 
placed in our Attic,> > > where> > > > >> they continue to be accessible to the 
public but are not portrayed> > as> > > > >> having> > > > >> an active 
community for maintenance.> > > > >>> > > > >>     http://attic.apache.org/> > 
> > >>> > > > >> If Mnemonic has reached this point, please reach out to the 
Attic> > > > project> > > > >> to arrange transfer. On the other hand, if your 
project is mostly> > > > dormant> > > > >> but> > > > >> still has at least 
three active PMC members, it can remain in that> > > state> > > > >> for> > > > 
>> as long as needed. If your project is in such a state, please> > mention> > 
> > >> that in> > > > >> your report and verify the PMC's state at regular 
intervals.> > > > >>> > > > >> Finally, if you have any questions, please feel 
free to reach out> to> > > > >> [email protected].> > > > >>> > > > >> Thanks,> 
> > > >> The ASF Board> > > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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