> On Jan 24, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> A vote can’t override a veto of a code commit.
>> 
> 
> I'm trying to get things to move along toward some kind of workable
> solution we can all live with. Why are you talking about procedure? It just
> feels obstructionist :-(
> 

You can view it either way.  I look at your position of insisting the stuff 
stay in the main build as being obstructionist on the one hand and creating a 
bloated mess on the other.

I’ve been complaining about the build for at least a year and finally feel the 
issue needs to be forced. Plus, I see us keep adding modules for things that 
are not related to what, in my opinion, is the main purpose of the main repo - 
to build a Java logging framework that meets the vast majority of users needs. 
Other things, like Mongo appenders, are esoteric add-ons that don’t belong 
there. Over time I can see this growing to outlandish proportions as we keep 
adding things that allow you to integrate with whatever the latest thing is. To 
be honest, I am not sure why we don’t have Appenders that write to Solr, 
ElasticSearch, or any/every one of the other things listed at 
http://nosql-database.org/ <http://nosql-database.org/>. I have no problem with 
those integrations but they have no business being in the main build.  I just 
don’t see how you could possibly believe that having integrations with all 
those components in the main build would be a good thing.

This discussion does make me wonder how often you perform a full build. I found 
it telling that your guidance in the pull request left off running a full build 
to detect whether the fix broke anything. As I have said before, I almost 
always run a full build before I commit. Based on issues I’ve found in the past 
with some of your commits I am pretty sure you don’t do this, which is why you 
probably don’t consider this to be as big a problem as I do.


Ralph

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