> On Jan 24, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> > wrote: > >> A vote can’t override a veto of a code commit. >> > > I'm trying to get things to move along toward some kind of workable > solution we can all live with. Why are you talking about procedure? It just > feels obstructionist :-( >
You can view it either way. I look at your position of insisting the stuff stay in the main build as being obstructionist on the one hand and creating a bloated mess on the other. I’ve been complaining about the build for at least a year and finally feel the issue needs to be forced. Plus, I see us keep adding modules for things that are not related to what, in my opinion, is the main purpose of the main repo - to build a Java logging framework that meets the vast majority of users needs. Other things, like Mongo appenders, are esoteric add-ons that don’t belong there. Over time I can see this growing to outlandish proportions as we keep adding things that allow you to integrate with whatever the latest thing is. To be honest, I am not sure why we don’t have Appenders that write to Solr, ElasticSearch, or any/every one of the other things listed at http://nosql-database.org/ <http://nosql-database.org/>. I have no problem with those integrations but they have no business being in the main build. I just don’t see how you could possibly believe that having integrations with all those components in the main build would be a good thing. This discussion does make me wonder how often you perform a full build. I found it telling that your guidance in the pull request left off running a full build to detect whether the fix broke anything. As I have said before, I almost always run a full build before I commit. Based on issues I’ve found in the past with some of your commits I am pretty sure you don’t do this, which is why you probably don’t consider this to be as big a problem as I do. Ralph