I like log4j-samples better than log4j-server for the same reasons that Mikael 
and Ralph mentioned. True, it has already been released, but the module breakup 
gives us a chance to clarify our intentions. 

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> On May 31, 2017, at 4:44, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds good. I like to declare it as sample, since it is not really
>> production ready on the level of quality and security I would like us to
>> maintain the core of Log4j. If we want to declare it as production ready, I
>> think we have some work to do to improve it.
>> 
>> We recently had to make a security patch for a deserialization
>> vulnerability in the code that is now part of log4j-server. And we just got
>> a bug report: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1922
>> 
>> If we declare it as sample, it would be less urgent to make such patches,
>> and to fix such bugs.
> 
> 
> Except that the code is already released, so that argument is moot :-(
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2017-05-30 19:37, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> 
>>> I plan on moving the log4j-samples module to a separate repo anyway. I
>>> see no reason why the server can’t go into that repo.
>>> 
>>>> On May 30, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Making a new repo isn't a big deal. Once we figure out a nice way to
>>>> build
>>>> two separate repos, that can easily extend to N separate repos, right? ;)
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 May 2017 at 11:26, Mikael Ståldal <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I put it in log4j-tools since it Ralph didn't wanted it in the main repo,
>>>>> and there was not other existing repo which fitted better.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't mind moving it to the main repo, or to some other new repo (if
>>>>> we
>>>>> find it worth the effort to create and setup yet another repo, I am
>>>>> skeptic). I would object reintegrating it into the log4j-core module
>>>>> though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2017-05-29 23:32, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree it doesn’t belong in the tools repo. It really belongs in a
>>>>>> log4j-examples or log4j-samples as that is all it was meant to be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 29, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I find that the Git repo logging-log4j-tools is the wrong home for
>>>>>>> log4-server. This is not a tool. It's a runtime component. I do not
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> it cannot live in main repo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use tools at development time. YMMV.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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