@Jake, whilst I agree with your statement that there is a preference that sers use GFSH to manage their clusters. With that statement are you also making a blanket statement we should remove the exposed public API's we expose in GEODE to start a Client/Server/Locator?

IF the expected usage of the product is to download it and not use dependency management, should we then also remove `geode-core`, `geode-wan`, `geode-lucene` artifacts, as all of these would also be within the dependencies listed in the geode-dependecies.jar?

It DOES sound counter productive and in essence a little backwards, but if our "prescribed" approach to interact/bootstrap/configure/manage Geode is to use GFSH, then we should remove all other temptations.

--Udo

On 9/25/19 12:10 PM, Jacob Barrett wrote:

-1 for updating previous releases or merging into the current release. I see no 
overwhelming need to have these published so that a downstream project can 
subvert the prescribed why of starting a server with all its dependencies. A 
workaround to this issue is to depend on the full distribution tgz and use gfsh 
or geode-dependencies.jar to start things up.

-Jake

On Sep 25, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Udo Kohlmeyer <ukohlme...@pivotal.io> wrote:

So it seems there is consensus around jar vs war. WAR's win by nose. (until we 
can find a more creative way to expose said artifacts)

That said, do we need to start another thread about fixing 1.8.x or 1.9.x?

I'm already considering proposing that GEODE-7241 is included into 1.9.2, as 
that patch release is already discussed to backport GEODE-7121.

--Udo

On 9/25/19 10:53 AM, Anthony Baker wrote:
Thanks for the reminder.  If these files are required to start a geode member, 
I agree they should be published artifacts.  Perhaps there’s a better way to 
pull them in…but this seems like the best option for now.

Anthony


On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Udo Kohlmeyer <ukohlme...@pivotal.io> wrote:

@Anthony. Ticket was updated.. In a nutshell, to run integration tests, using 
the REST endpoints, requires the starting of the server with and embedded 
web-server.

As all tests run on dependency management only and don't have access to a 
downloaded product, the HTTP endpoints are not part of the dependency. These 
are added in by including the WAR files from mavenCentral.

As @Dan pointed out, GEODE-5660 enabled this behavior.

I think this approach might actually even help with the testing of the REST 
Controller in the Geode codebase itself.

--Udo

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