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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Sylvain Wallez wrote:

Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 10:13:33 +0100
From: Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

 So I'm coming back to my idea, is anyone against adding constructor
 injection to ECM++ or at least make it pluggable so I can add it for my
 own projects? The change adds only a feature while maintaining 100%
 compatibility.


I have strong reservations about components using a mixed model (i.e. dependency injection + Avalon interfaces), as these components will look as "semi-POJOs" that bring some potential confusion about their lifecycle:
- is the component ready after the constructor has been called?
- what is the call order between setter-based injection and Avalon lifecycle interfaces?
- what is the lifestyle of a POJO: thread safe, single threaded?

So although I'm all for a simplification of components and moving away from Avalon, I'm strongly against using mixed models.

Now, do we need to make changes to ECM++ at all? Cocoon 2.2 allows the integration of other containers such as Spring (Carsten, _you_ wrote that!), so we just have to *use* what is already there, using a solid existing container rather than a half-baked solution.

I'm with Sylvain's and Gianugo's oppinion. I also see users getting confused with multiple choices of "how to write a component". I'd say in this area we need a revolution instead of an evolution.

Maybe we need a ECM+++ to still keep our fingers on the container.

- -- Giacomo Pati
Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com
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