Hi all,

Just a quick update on the ongoing `cloudberry-bootcamp` repo reorganization.

The `sandbox` files previously located under
`apache/cloudberry-bootcamp` have now been migrated to the main
repository, under `devops/sandbox`. Feel free to try it out and let me
know if you run into any issues.

Next steps:
- Add an archive notice to the `apache/cloudberry-bootcamp` repo
- Create a Jira ticket to request the ASF Infra team to help archive the repo

Best,
Dianjin Wang

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 3:45 PM Dianjin Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Leonid,
>
> Thanks for driving this work!
>
> Once it's completed, we can ask the ASF Infra team to archive the old
> `apache/cloudberry-devops-release` repo. All new CICD-related work
> will be conducted in the main repo.
>
> For the `cloudberry-bootcamp/sandbox`, I also plan to migrate it to
> `devops/sandbox` based on the new file structure.
>
> Best,
> Dianjin Wang
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 8:09 PM Leonid Borchuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, developers!
> >
> > As we discussed here I have created PR to move cloudberry-devops-release to 
> > the main repository. This should simplify the process of developing new 
> > features - one can add packages to build, change configure scripts and use 
> > it in a code - all in one PR.
> >
> > The new file tree is
> >
> > apache/cloudberry/
> > ├── .github/workflows/         # GitHub Actions
> > ├── devops/                   # New: Unified DevOps directory
> > │   ├── README.md            # DevOps overview documentation
> > │   ├── build/               # Build-related files
> > │   │   ├── automation/      # Build automation scripts
> > │   │   │   └── cloudberry/
> > │   │   │       └── scripts/*
> > │   │   ├── packaging/       # Packaging-related files
> > │   │   │   ├── rpm/         # RPM packaging
> > │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-db-incubating.spec
> > │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-hll-incubating.spec
> > │   │   │   │   ├── apache-cloudberry-pgvector-incubating.spec
> > │   │   │   │   ├── cloudberry-dev-repo.spec
> > │   │   │   │   ├── build-rpm.sh
> > │   │   │   │   └── README.md
> > │   │   │   ├── deb/*        # Future DEB packaging (reserved)
> > │   │   │   └── README.md    # Packaging documentation
> > │   │   └── README.md        # Build documentation
> > │   ├── deploy/              # Deployment-related files
> > │   │   ├── docker/          # Docker images
> > │   │   │   ├── build/
> > │   │   │   │   ├── rocky8/
> > │   │   │   │   ├── rocky9/
> > │   │   │   │   └── ubuntu22.04/ # Future addition
> > │   │   │   ├── test/
> > │   │   │   │   ├── rocky8/
> > │   │   │   │   ├── rocky9/
> > │   │   │   │   └── ubuntu22.04/ # Future addition
> > │   │   │   └── README.md
> > │   │   └── README.md        # Deployment documentation
> > │   ├── release/             # Release management
> > │   │   ├── cloudberry-release.sh
> > │   │   └── README.md        # Release process documentation
> > │   └── tools/               # Utility scripts
> > │       ├── elf_rockylinux_dependency_analyzer.py
> > │       ├── elf_ubuntu_dependency_analyzer.py
> > │       ├── s3-repo-sync-and-sign.sh
> > │       └── README.md        # Tools documentation
> >
> > What I need - please review PR for moving files 
> > https://github.com/apache/cloudberry/pull/1292
> >
> > I with @Dianjin Wang have been discussing changes but since the changes 
> > could affect everyone, additional review and approval are strictly 
> > recommended.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 2:00 PM Dianjin Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Regarding the sandbox files in the bootcamp, I plan to move them to
> >> the `deploy/sandbox` directory. I also plan to refactor them to use
> >> the Cloudberry build image as the builder. This will help us avoid
> >> maintaining duplicate base image Docker files across multiple
> >> directories.
> >>
> >> BTW, do we have a plan for moving `cloudberry-release-devops` to the
> >> main repository? There's currently a PR that requires introducing
> >> extra dependencies, and developers are having difficulty finding them
> >> to edit.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Dianjin Wang
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 5:52 PM Dianjin Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Cool! Then I need to rethink the way how to reorganize the
> >> > `cloudberry-bootcamp` better after our `cloudberry-devops-release`
> >> > move to the main repo.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Dianjin Wang
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 5:25 PM Ed Espino <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Leonid,
> >> > >
> >> > > Totally agree — let’s move the build scripts into the main repo.
> >> > >
> >> > > Having everything in one place will simplify development, especially 
> >> > > for
> >> > > larger changes like PAX support. It’ll streamline testing, reduce
> >> > > cross-repo friction, and make iteration much faster. We can always 
> >> > > revisit
> >> > > a split setup later if our release needs grow.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for raising this — fully on board.
> >> > >
> >> > > -=e
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 1:47 AM Leonid Borchuk <[email protected]> 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I totally agree. It would be great to have a single library where 
> >> > > > all of
> >> > > > our
> >> > > > assets are stored.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > But until we start large-scale reconstruction work, I would like to 
> >> > > > ask a
> >> > > > slightly off-topic question: Why do we even need a
> >> > > > cloudberry-release-devops?
> >> > > > Why can't all our scripts be stored in the main repository?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It happens to be rather tedious to use two repos, especially when 
> >> > > > changing
> >> > > > something big. Such as adding PAX support. For such a big change you 
> >> > > > need
> >> > > > to commit something breaking the building to the main repo. And at 
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > point, your tests will fail. Then you have to fix the
> >> > > > cloudberry-release-devops (add additional packages), but the tests 
> >> > > > may
> >> > > > still fail. And now you could fix the tests and make a final commit. 
> >> > > > And
> >> > > > only now can one check if everything is OK. We could store all our 
> >> > > > scripts
> >> > > > together with the code.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Best regards, Leonid
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 9:05 AM Dianjin Wang <[email protected]> 
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Hi all,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Over the past two years, the bootcamp repo has grown to include
> >> > > > > various types of content, such as sandbox Dockerfiles, tutorials, 
> >> > > > > and
> >> > > > > learning materials. I’d like to start a discussion around 
> >> > > > > reorganizing
> >> > > > > the `apache/cloudberry-bootcamp` repo to improve clarity and
> >> > > > > maintainability across our community resources.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > The primary motivation is to consolidate content by type and reduce
> >> > > > > redundancy, which would:
> >> > > > > * Make it easier for contributors to find and update documentation
> >> > > > > * Reduce ongoing maintenance overhead
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ## Proposal (for discussion)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I propose reorganizing this bootcamp repo as follows:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > * Move sandbox-related files to `apache/cloudberry-devops-release`,
> >> > > > > where we maintain tools related to deployment and release 
> >> > > > > automation
> >> > > > > -- a new dir called `sandbox` will be created to store them.
> >> > > > > * For the benchmark test files -- a new directory called 
> >> > > > > `benchmark`
> >> > > > > will be created under `apache/cloudberry-devops-release`, but we 
> >> > > > > can
> >> > > > > do this until these files are ready.
> >> > > > > * Migrate tutorials, crash courses, and learning content to the
> >> > > > > `apache/cloudberry-site` repo, which now serves as the single 
> >> > > > > source
> >> > > > > for end-user documentation. All of these materials have been 
> >> > > > > copied to
> >> > > > > our website repo [1].
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Once the content has been fully migrated and verified, plan to:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > * Archive the cloudberry-bootcamp repository, with a notice in the
> >> > > > > README indicating that it is no longer actively maintained and that
> >> > > > > the relevant content has been moved.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ## Request for Feedback
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > This is just a proposal at this stage. I’d love to hear your 
> >> > > > > thoughts
> >> > > > > and suggestions. If most of the members agree, I would like to help
> >> > > > > take action on this plan.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks, and looking forward to your feedback!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > [1] https://cloudberry.apache.org/bootcamp#cloudberry-sandbox
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Best,
> >> > > > > Dianjin Wang
> >> > > > >
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> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Ed Espino
> >> > > Apache Cloudberry (Incubating) & MADlib
> >>
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