> to focus minds, I will remind everyone that the project rules permit 
> unilateral vetoes on contributions, and in the absence of any policy on the 
> matter that includes AI generated contributions.
Personal opinion here, but this is a counter-productive way to open a 
collaborative discussion.

Since this is out here on thread, I'll take it upon myself to clarify the 
official policy for anyone that's not aware:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/CASSANDRA/pages/158863606/Cassandra+Project+Governance
>  • Code must not be committed while subject to an explicit -1 vote by a 
> committer for clearly expressed and reasonable technical grounds
>  • If code has been committed but not released, a -1 vote from a committer 
> (that is not resolved by follow-up commits) can be reverted
>  • If the proposer responds to the concerns of a -1 voter, and the -1 voter 
> does not engage reasonably with the response, the -1 is rescinded
>  • Committers should explicitly veto work *exceptionally rarely*

I read this as more nuanced than "project rules permit unilateral vetoes on 
contributions".

On Tue, Sep 22, 2026, at 6:27 AM, Benedict wrote:
> Hi everyone. Let me preface this by saying that we need a policy on this, and 
> we will probably struggle to reach a consensus. So to focus minds, I will 
> remind everyone that the project rules permit unilateral vetoes on 
> contributions, and in the absence of any policy on the matter that includes 
> AI generated contributions.
> 
> My proposal in brief is that LLM usage is
> 
> =====
> Encouraged:
> - Reviewing and otherwise validating human-authored patches before submission
> - Debugging, diagnosing etc
> 
> Permitted:
> - Generating or modifying tests, scripts, tooling or any other non-user 
> facing changes
> - Minor changes to human-authored patches that are carefully reviewed by the 
> author
> 
> Restricted:
> - Core code changes made by LLM may only be proposed by contributors with 
> demonstrated expertise
>     - Must have produced similar patches in size, scope and area unassisted 
> and with minimal third-party guidance
> - Core code changes made by LLM require an additional reviewer
> - LLM review is not a substitute for human review, and must be used only to 
> augment a complete and independent human understanding of the patch.
> 
> Prohibited:
> - All public prose must be human authored. This includes inline comments, 
> docs, posts to Jira etc.
> 
> All LLM generated changes MUST be disclosed:
> - Outlined to any reviewer;
> - Summarised in the commit message;
> - Large blocks or files must be individually marked with some agreed message 
> like "created by <some AI>"
> =====
> 
> I will keep my argumentation brief.
> 
> LLM generated changes:
>     - Break the community and knowledge-building aspect of patch review, 
> since the contributor is not clearly learning from the feedback process
>     - Flips the asymmetry between author and reviewer/maintainer: it is now 
> cheaper to write than review or maintain
>     - Does not demonstrate expertise, commitment or that they can or will 
> maintain the patch
> 
> For these reasons, it should be expected that the person producing the patch 
> has already demonstrated their expertise and commitment by producing and 
> maintaining similar patches without the use of AI
> 
> Authoring a patch results in deeper understanding. To offset the reduced 
> collective knowledge of LLM generated changes, and improve our ability to 
> confidently maintain it, we should expect changes to be more widely 
> socialised through an additional review.
> 
> Finally, LLM comments are worse than no comment. An author must ensure their 
> reader's time is valued, by investing their own time crafting a message with 
> a proper understanding of its intended audience. LLMs may assist in 
> preparation, but must not produce the content itself.
> 
> I don't believe this fully accounts for all of the risks posed by AI usage in 
> the project, especially regarding maintainability of the codebase and 
> maintaining the community. But I hope this middle-ground policy will prove to 
> be acceptable to enough of the community.
> 
> 

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