sorry for the late message, it is not a concern just a clarification.
So, am I right that we will have one more branch to support (merge bug
fixes) and correspondent CI job (so 5 in total), like 4.0, 4.1, 5.0, 6.0
(with alphas) and trunk?

Regards,
Dmitry

On Mon, 17 Nov 2025 at 17:47, Josh McKenzie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you saying that we might cut the 6.0.0-beta1 and 6.0-dev branch any
> time between now and April if people feel it is ready?
> If so I think that’s probably fine. But I think it needs to be reworded to
> make that clear.
>
> That's what I was trying for. Poorly. :)
>
> Take 2:
> ---
> *Transition:*
>
>    - Rather than waiting until April of 2026 for 6.0 as per the new
>    schedule, since it's been over a year since 5.0 released we will plan to
>    release 6.0 any time between now and April of 2026 at the latest. The train
>    may leave early but worst-case it'll go out on time.
>    - We will plan on cutting 7.0 in April of 2027
>
> ---
> My thinking: even if we were to cut a 6.0 branch tomorrow, we'd be looking
> ~2 years of code changes between 5.0 and 6.0 branches (I think it was
> around Dec '23 branch for 5.0 created? And then it took to Sep '24 to
> stabilize). So if we have somewhere around 1.5-2 years worth of features in
> the 6.0 line, then between Nov '25 and April '26 we'd accumulate ~1.5 years
> worth of features, then get to the final targeted 1 year worth of features
> per GA.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2025, at 12:17 PM, David Capwell wrote:
>
> Works for me
>
> On Nov 16, 2025, at 4:05 PM, Jeremiah Jordan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The main text sounds good to me. I’m not quite sure what you are trying to
> say in the 6.0 part at the end.
> Are you saying that we might cut the 6.0.0-beta1 and 6.0-dev branch any
> time between now and April if people feel it is ready?
> If so I think that’s probably fine. But I think it needs to be reworded to
> make that clear.
>
> Thanks for working through this!
>
> -Jeremiah
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2025 at 9:46 AM Josh McKenzie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> I think I'm seeing consensus.
>
> So here's my first cut at a text I'd like to formally propose based on our
> conversation from this thread; please let me know if you have a concern
> from this thread I've missed or if I misunderstood or misread a consensus
> point. We will need an exception to the following "April to April" cadence
> for 6.0 as we transition from one schedule to another; this is noted at the
> end of the draft.
>
> We'll retain the "alpha" label as agreed rather than "snapshot" and update
> the Release Lifecycle doc to reflect this.
>
> ---
> *Summary:*
> We target a yearly MAJOR release cadence, cutting a new release branch on
> April 1st that we then stabilize. Our yearly branching cadence will run
> from April to April - this avoids holiday crunch on feature finalization.
> We will release alphas at the beginning of all other quarters (i.e. July,
> October, January).
>
> Alphas give downstream users a stable snapshot for qualification and
> internal testing that is much nearer the upcoming GA.
>
> All dates are aspirational - we’re an open‑source project that relies on
> volunteers, so flexibility is expected.
>
> See our Release Lifecycle wiki for details on the definitions of alpha,
> beta, and rc:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/Release+Lifecycle
>
> *Yearly MAJOR release cadence:*
>
>    - A release branch from trunk is created April 1st.
>    - A MAJOR.0.0-beta1 release is packaged from that branch and made
>    available shortly after freeze date.
>    - Only features that have reached -beta / experimental status will be
>    available in the next MAJOR.
>    - We cut new -betaN releases as needed (see Release Lifecycle
>    documentation). There is no fixed calendar lifecycle for beta progression.
>    - RCs and the final GA follow the normal release lifecycle process
>    (beta -> rc -> ga) and are cut based on criteria in our Release Lifecycle.
>    - A new -beta1 for the next MAJOR is always cut the next April 1 after
>    the prior -beta1 independent of when the prior .MAJOR reaches GA.
>    - Stabilization of adjacent .MAJOR lines and promotion from beta to rc
>    to ga are independent.
>
> *Alpha release cadence:*
>
>    - At the start of each non-April quarter we cut an alpha-N release.
>    - Target dates will be July 1st (alpha-1), October 1st (alpha-2), Jan
>    1st (alpha-3).
>    - For alpha releases, it's built and released from a tag. No new
>    branches.
>    - Alphas receive no support; security fixes or bug‑fix backports are
>    applied only to trunk and GA branches.
>    - Alphas go through the standard Apache release process; they are
>    voted on, artifacts prepared, and notification is sent on the dev@,
>    user@, and ASF slack channels but not published on the download page.
>
> *Subprojects:*
>
>    - Sub‑projects are encouraged but not required to follow the same
>    April → July → Oct → Jan cadence; they may skip a quarter if there is
>    nothing releasable after a brief dev@ discussion.
>
> *Transition:*
>
>    - For the 6.0 .MAJOR, we will target a branch and release at any date
>    up to April 1st 2026 at the latest based on the community consensus to
>    accommodate the longer development window and volume of work in trunk as we
>    transition from the prior release cadence.
>
> ---
> As always - I appreciate everyone's time and input on this.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025, at 7:33 PM, Jaydeep Chovatia wrote:
>
> +1 to the proposal.
>
> Jaydeep
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 2:49 PM Caleb Rackliffe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> +1 to the proposal
>
> > *We reserve the right to release more frequently than this if we decide
> to*
> > MAJOR.MINOR? Would keep oldest GA for a predictable length with support
> model but introduce a new branch into our merge-path which is extra merge
> and CI toil.
> > Or new MAJOR and we drop oldest supported? If we cut alphas (see below),
> the pressure for out-of-cycle releases to make features available may be
> mitigated.
>
> If we really want to do this, it feels reasonable to say it should be
> something important enough to force a new MAJOR, drop the oldest
> supported major, and "reset" the "alpha clock" back to 1. Otherwise, making
> it into the next scheduled alpha and then the following MAJOR on a 12-month
> boundary should be fine. The nightmare scenario for that, though, is when
> we want to do it in, let's say...February, while the Jan 1 MAJOR is in
> beta. Maybe it's better to just avoid it.
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 2:30 PM Josh McKenzie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> What I mean is if we decide the train leaves the station on December 1,
> how do we choose the features on the train?
>
> Features merged to trunk should be in one of the following 3 states:
>
>    1. alpha: Not exposed to users if they don't yet work (available via
>    .yaml config maybe, etc)
>    2. beta: Exposed but flagged as experimental and off by default
>    3. ga: Exposed and available by default (barring any guardrails, etc)
>
> So whatever features are committed and beta before that date are in the
> release and available at varying levels of ease to our users. No need to
> decide what goes into a release since, worst-case, you merge a ga feature
> to trunk 1 day after we froze and it's available via the next alpha in 3
> months.
>
> I'm using alpha / beta / GA above in a somewhat new way for us that
> reflects what we've *actually* been doing. I think using the same
> alpha/beta/GA hierarchy for features as we use for releases would help
> provide consistency and symmetry for user expectations, but that's another
> topic I plan to bring up after we get alignment here.
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025, at 2:59 PM, Brandon Williams wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 1:55 PM Patrick McFadin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > What I mean is if we decide the train leaves the station on December 1,
> how do we choose the features on the train?
>
> They are committed before the train leaves, or they have to wait for
> the next one.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Dmitry Konstantinov

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