Yes, Reseller and RA are 2 distinct roles.  However, in some cases, a single 
entity may choose (and be approved) to perform both of these roles.

I fully agree that the Reseller role "should not perform any validation 
procedures at all".

On Wednesday 31 December 2008 00:29:17 Eddy Nigg wrote:
> On 12/31/2008 01:27 AM, Frank Hecker:
> > One reason I say this is "good CA practice" as opposed to a mandatory
> > requirement, is because of cases like enterprise PKIs where the
> > enterprises might act as RAs and do verification based on their own
> > internal systems (e.g., HR databases).
>
> I think this is what we want to avoid actually, don't we? Or perhaps we
> could leave it as is, since the Mozilla CA Policy is actually clear in
> relation to validations.
>
> Incidentally I had previously a problem with Microsoft's policy to
> disallowing certain enterprise scenarios, hereby it might make some
> sense. But even then, the proposal would actually call for an
> attestation, whereas the attestation itself hasn't been defined yet. I
> think this is what also Kay proposed.
>
> Now, we must not forget what an RA is, what a reseller is and what an
> enterprise scenario is. RAs are interesting for the verification and
> validation of identity documents in person for example. Or organizations
> for that matter. Since RAs always have to interact with the CA at some
> point, I believe incorporating domain/email validation is more than
> easy. Even in enterprise settings is that possible.
>
> Resellers should not perform any validation procedures at all. They
> should sell certificates and not be involved with any of the technical
> sides of he procedures. Reseller != RA.
>
> As such, I believe that it would be good to improve the Mozilla CA
> Policy and work towards better definitions and requirements. Even if the
> validation aspect is clearly defined and *required*, we might exclude
> certain practices outright. There are of course other points I'd like to
> have improved.



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