Nelson B Bolyard wrote:
Ian G wrote, On 2008-11-22 07:39:
So an obvious thing is to add chat to Tbird. How to do this?
Are you aware of chatzilla? It's been around for a long time.
Protocols and architecture are defined in RFCs 2810-2813. Chatzilla
interoperates with many other chat clients that follow those RFCs.
No, I wasn't aware. I'm guessing chatzilla is an IRC client only? So
it needs a central server, and it is only encrypted client-server? (To
be frank, I don't use IRC that much because it doesn't appeal to a wide
base of my communicators. I'm guessing that is because the old
client-server model is less scalable, but that's a long debate.)
Mozilla runs an Internet Relay Chat server for use by chatzilla users.
It's widely and heavily used by mozilla developers and other community
members. I think you'd have a difficult time convincing mozilla they need a
SECOND chat client/service.
I'm not sure about those statements. I thought Mozilla objectives were
to support end-users with what they wanted, not developers? Are you
suggesting that the Mozilla developers think users want IRC? I've never
seen that, this would be new to me. IRC seems to be a developer-heavy
community.
Also, your proposal seems to suggest that you place "standards chat"
above "secure chat". It doesn't take much elegance of argumentation to
show that these are not really the same thing, nor can they easily
align. E.g., standards bodies haven't updated their security model in a
decade or more, but the attackers have (updated their respective
models). (The users, too.)
This dilemma is most easily shown in the form of Col. Boyd's OODA loop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_Loop
iang
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