Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.) wrote:
[...]
> Jeremy, I think one of the problems with self-signed certificates is 
> what I call "warning-popup-click-away-effect". People simply got used to 
> click through the warnings, which in some way deflated the SSL 
> authentication model further (speaking here only about domain validated 
> authentication - identity or organization validation is yet another 
> issue). Would the casual user have the means and knowledge to differ 
> between self-signed and CA issued certificates - like you and me most 
> likely do, the problem wouldn't be such. However this is not the case 
> and therefore the steps taken by Mozilla I guess.

Well, I think if FF3 switches completely to the new identity info model 
as proposed in bug #, then hopefully yes they will.  Basically, if there 
aint a big green section in the URLbar with a name you trust in it, 
don't use it for, say, online banking.  However what I'd like to avoid 
is a warning popup when you're using a self-signed cert.  I certainly 
don't see them as *less* secure than HTTP.

> Considering the effect it will have on the millions of casual users - it 
> dwarfs the negative effect it has on web site owners who prefered to use 
> self-signed certificates. But I invite you to read an article I wrote 
> not long ago at https://blog.startcom.org/?p=33 which gives some heads 
> up. Certainly nothing is guaranteed forever, but provides an alternative 
> to self-signed certificates today. Just my two cents...

Interesting, but in that blog you merely state that you will do it for 
free; you don't say how.  :-)  Care to elabourate?  I guess you, like 
most companies offering stuff for free, do it by having low costs, 
getting big donations, and people buying more 'advanced' products?

Best regards,
Jeremy Morton (Jez)

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