Gervase Markham wrote:
>
> Are Austrians not users of our products? :-)
>   
Sure ;-)
> Every CA has a market that it serves. There is no obvious bright and 
> clear line where we can divide CAs into "providing services relevant to 
> typical users" and not; the language is intentionally vague. We have 
> been asked to include certificates for extremely large (hundreds of 
> thousands of users) albeit closed health and academic PKI systems. We 
> are considering how to respond.
>   
OK.
> As we discovered when we considered the applications from sub-national 
> government entities, there's no easy way to draw this line. One might 
> say "we want to avoid roots which are only there for the benefit of a 
> single company's business" - but then Visa applies, which has a billion 
> cardholders, millions of retailers and thousands of banks. Is it not in 
> the interests of the project to include their root?
>
> It's a hard problem.
>   
Right! Usually any root included is interesting for the party which 
applied to have it included obviously. I guess, that the relevance to a 
typical Mozilla user is supposed to balance the business interested 
somewhat. Anyway, I just wanted to make aware of the limitations with 
this specific CA, which might be a "first" and open the door for many 
other local CAs to come.

If I remember right, there was a discussion on that issue? Don't 
remember its outcome however...Perhaps the Mozilla CA policy should be 
clearer in that respect and explain if a CA should be public or not 
(Assuming that a CA for Austria citizens only is not a public CA per se).
>   
>> Also I wonder which CA root applies to which one from the 
>> list on http://signatur.rtr.at/en/providers/providers/atrust.html
>> The naming convention of the roots are not consistent with 
>> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/certs/pending/#id0x0e6c3390 
>> making it impossible to refer to the correct entry.
>>     
>
> The CA can choose what friendly names they like for their website and 
> for the store; any confusion is their problem. You can check which cert 
> is which by comparing fingerprints.
>   
Can you give me an example? I can't find a way to compare anything about 
the certificate and the list provided. I just picked randomly one from 
the list: 
http://signatur.rtr.at/en/providers/services/atrust-asign-corporate-light.html

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