On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Jeff Gilbert <jgilb...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> I'm interested to find out how the new Ryzen chips do. It should fit
> their niche well. I have one at home now, so I'll test when I get a
> chance.
>

Ryzen currently on Linux implies no rr, so beware of that.


> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Trevor Saunders
> <tbsaunde+mozi...@tbsaunde.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 04:42:09PM -0700, Gregory Szorc wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Ralph Giles <gi...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Gregory Szorc <g...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > * `mach build binaries` (touch network/dns/DNS.cpp): 14.1s
> >> >
> >> > 24s here. So faster link times and significantly faster clobber
> times. I'm
> >> > sold!
> >> >
> >> > Any motherboard recommendations? If we want developers to use machines
> >> > like this, maintaining a current config in ServiceNow would probably
> >> > help.
> >>
> >>
> >> Until the ServiceNow catalog is updated...
> >>
> >> The Lenovo ThinkStation P710 is a good starting point (
> >> http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/workstations/thinkstation/p-series/p710/).
> >> From the default config:
> >>
> >> * Choose a 2 x E5-2637v4 or a 2 x E5-2643v4
> >> * Select at least 4 x 8 GB ECC memory sticks (for at least 32 GB)
> >> * Under "Non-RAID Hard Drives" select whatever works for you. I
> recommend a
> >> 512 GB SSD as the primary HD. Throw in more drives if you need them.
> >>
> >> Should be ~$4400 for the 2xE5-2637v4 and ~$5600 for the 2xE5-2643v4
> >> (plus/minus a few hundred depending on configuration specific).
> >>
> >> FWIW, I priced out similar specs for a HP Z640 and the markup on the
> CPUs
> >> is absurd (costs >$2000 more when fully configured). Lenovo's
> >> markup/pricing seems reasonable by comparison. Although I'm sure someone
> >> somewhere will sell the same thing for cheaper.
> >>
> >> If you don't need the dual socket Xeons, go for an i7-6700K at the
> least. I
> >> got the
> >> http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/cto-dynamic-kits--1/hp-envy-
> 750se-windows-7-desktop-p5q80av-aba-1
> >> a few months ago and like it. At ~$1500 for an i7-6700K, 32 GB RAM, and
> a
> >> 512 GB SSD, the price was very reasonable compared to similar
> >> configurations at Dell, HP, others.
> >>
> >> The just-released Broadwell-E processors with 6-10 cores are also nice
> >> (i7-6850K, i7-6900K). Although I haven't yet priced any of these out so
> I
> >> have no links to share. They should be <$2600 fully configured. That's a
> >> good price point between the i7-6700K and a dual socket Xeon. Although
> if
> >> you do lots of C++ compiling, you should get the dual socket Xeons
> (unless
> >> you have access to more cores in an office or a remote machine).
> >
> >  The other week I built a machine with a 6800k, 32gb of ram, and a 2 tb
> >  hdd for $1525 cad so probably just under $1000 usd.  With just that
> >  machine I can do a 10 minute linux debug build.  For less than the
> >  price of the e3 machine quoted above I can buy 4 of those machines
> >  which I expect would produce build times under 5:00.
> >
> > I believe with 32gb of ram there's enough fs cache disk performance
> > doesn't actually matter, but it might be worth investigating moving a
> > ssd to that machine at some point.
> >
> > So I would tend to conclude Xeons are not a great deal unless you really
> > need to build for windows a lot before someone gets icecc working there.
> >
> > Trev
> >
> >> If you buy a machine today, watch out for Windows 7. The free Windows 10
> >> upgrade from Microsoft is ending soon. Try to get a Windows 10 Pro
> license
> >> out of the box. And, yes, you should use Windows 10 as your primary OS
> >> because that's what our users mostly use. I run Hyper-V under Windows 10
> >> and have at least 1 Linux VM running at all times. With 32 GB in the
> >> system, there's plenty of RAM to go around and Linux performance under
> the
> >> VM is excellent. It feels like I'm dual booting without the rebooting
> part.
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