On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Jonas Sicking <jo...@sicking.cc> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >> > Unfortunately, for the reasons I mentioned in the post I linked to
> >> > above,
> >> > it's hard for the user to give informed consent here, as they don't
> >> > understand
> >> > SOP, CSRF, etc.
> >>
> >> It's unclear to me what you are suggesting that we should or should not
> >> do.
> >
> > Well, as I said above, FF 33 is already shipping what MT and I were
> > able to come up with on short notice, namely:
> >
> > - A whitelist of the sites that are "legitimate" conferencing sites
>
> This seems like an extremely unfortunate.


As should be clear from the above, I agree it's suboptimal.



> What's the process for
> getting added to that whitelist?


See:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Screensharing


How do we enable a startup that wants
> to compete with Skype to do so?


See above.




> Will they have to go to each browser
> to ask to be added?


I believe that Chrome currently requires an extension to enable
screensharing. The feature isn't generally available to Web
content in Chrome for the same reason that we are restricting it.



> How do we enable a new web browser that wants to
> enter the browser market to know which websites it should whitelist?
> Is the whitelist compiled in at build time, or do we have the ability
> to update old browsers?
>

I don't know the answer to this question. This feature was implemented by
Brad Lassey's group, so you should ask Brad or Maire.



> To my knowledge no standardized feature of the web platform has ever
> before been built around whitelisting websites.


As I said, we're hoping to remove the whitelist by figuring out a set of
technical
mechanisms that protect and/or inform the user. If you have any good ideas
along these lines, I would certainly be happy to hear them and I'm sure the
WebRTC team would as well.

-Ekr
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