On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Robin Berjon <ro...@w3.org> wrote:
> On 22/09/2014 14:40 , Henri Sivonen wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Robin Berjon <ro...@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was hoping that we could simply reference WHATWG URL as a (small) token
>>> of
>>> good faith and normalisation, adding a small cobblestone to pave the way
>>> to
>>> cooperation.
>>
>>
>> If that was the goal, changing the "Goals" section of the spec to cast
>> doubts about whether the direction the W3C envisions for the spec is
>> consistent with the goal that are the actual reason for the spec's
>> existence was a rather bad way to go about it.
>
>
> For context, you are talking about changing the "Goals" section of the URL
> spec, right?

Yes.

For reference for those following along who don't want to bother to
look it up, the WHATWG URL Goals section reads:

> The URL standard standardizes URLs, aiming to make them fully interoperable.
> It does so as follows:
>
> * Align RFC 3986 and RFC 3987 with contemporary implementations and
>   obsolete them in the process. (E.g. spaces, other "illegal" code points,
>   query encoding, equality, canonicalization, are all concepts not entirely
>   shared, or defined.) URL parsing needs to become as solid as HTML
>   parsing. [URI] [IRI]
>
> * Standardize on the term URL. URI and IRI are just confusing. In practice
>   a single algorithm is used for both so keeping them distinct is not helping
>   anyone. URL also easily wins the search result popularity contest.
>
> * Supplanting Origin of a URI [sic]. [ORIGIN]
>
> * Define URL's existing JavaScript API in full detail and add
>   enhancements to make it easier to work with. Add a new URL object
>   as well for URL manipulation without usage of HTML elements.
>   (Useful for Web Workers.)
>
> Note: As the editor learns more about the subject matter the goals might
> increase in scope somewhat.

The W3C Goals section replaces the last "Note" paragraph with:

> W3C-specific note: This specification documents current RFC 3986 and
> RFC 3987 handling in contemporary Web browser implementations. As a
> consequence, this specification is not compatible with those RFCs. It is
> published for the purpose of providing a stable reference for the HTML5
> specification and reflecting current Web browser HTML5 implementations.
> The W3C Technical Architecture Group expects to continue the work on
> the URL specification and produce a future version that will attempt to
> re-align the URL specification with an updated version of RFC 3986
> while preserving interoperability.

-- 
Henri Sivonen
hsivo...@hsivonen.fi
https://hsivonen.fi/
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