Hi All,

This all seems to be coming down to my current workflow about
enhancement bugs that i'm opening. To my knowledge, there has been only
two bug reports that i have not given enough information, which resulted
in them being set to NEEDINFO, which i then followed up with more
information.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87362
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86627

As i'm opening enhancement requests, sometimes i seek the advise of more
experienced users to know whether the enhancement is a good idea or not,
which can be seen in the two examples previously quoted.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87360
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87357

If the QA team doesnt wish to give their input into these enhancement
requests, then i think the simplest thing to do is to set them all as
ux-advise rather than what i currently do of assigning it to the
component and CC ux-advise. I guess my main issue is not knowing what is
considered ux-advise and what isnt.

Regards,
Jay Philips

On 12/17/2014 06:08 PM, Sophie wrote:
> Hi Kendy, all,
> Le 17/12/2014 12:47, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> Sophie píše v Út 16. 12. 2014 v 19:16 +0100:
>>>  
>>>>> Discussing with QA team today, there has been a lot of bug reports
>>>>> concerning minor enhancements these last days.
>>>>> It would be better is those enhancements would be first discussed by the
>>>>> UX team before going to QA for triage because most of the time they
>>>>> don't have the requested info regarding bug filling then QA team has to
>>>>> spend a lot of time to reproduce them and this is not up to the QA team
>>>>> to discuss UX enhancements.
>>>>
>>>> Please can you send few examples to have a better idea? :-)
>>>
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87360
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87357
>>> or see this list:
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&component=ux-advise&email1=philipz85%40hotmail.co&emailtype1=substring&list_id=505514&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced
>>
>> Ah! - so Jay is a very active member of the Design Team, and discusses
>> his proposals the right way; so I am not really concerned about these
>> reports :-) - they will be handled properly, I am sure.
> 
> ok, no problem, Jay is an example (and great to see him so active here
> now :) but that will help to set the good process between the teams.
>>
>> So to get them out of the stats - does the NEEDINFO + ux-advise
>> component (as Stuart proposed) work for you, Sophie?  Jay - can you
>> please mark your reports that way if yes?
> 
> Well, I'm only the messenger here. So let me make the proposal to the QA
> team during their meeting this evening, and I'll report back to you, but
> I guess they will be ok with Stuart proposal and yours.
>>
>>> Yes, but that is a lot of work for bug triagers. If you well know the
>>> functionality, it's easy to discriminate, but for QA people who do not
>>> have that knowledge, the lack of steps to reproduce, examples, etc. is
>>> very time consuming plus the fact that he won't know what to do with it
>>> (50% of users would like to have it and the other 50% won't), when it
>>> can be solved quickly by discussing a little bit.
>>
>> Sure, as I did not have the examples, I did not know exactly what you
>> had in mind :-)
> 
> Ok, thanks a lot to Stuart and you to help me clarify it :)
> Cheers
> Sophie
> 

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