On Tuesday 28 April 2026 04:54:13 pm Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 19:40:40 +0000
> Andy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 09:17:49PM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2026-04-28 at 18:03 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:  
> > > > gmail often errs on the side of not accepting email or sending it
> > > > to spam folder, even when the sender is also from gmail.  
> > > 
> > > Worse, it accepts mail & then doesn’t deliver it (sometimes not
> > > even to the Spam folder).  It’s just not a reliable service to use,
> > > period.  
> > 
> > A Google employee on the "mailop" mailing list once said that there is
> > absolutely no intentional way for gmail to silently discard an email,
> > unless a user with a Workspaces account has added filtering rules to
> > do that.
> > 
> > On the other hand, as someone whose business sends out invoices by
> > email, I have had recipients at gmail.com swear that they only paid
> > late because "we never received the email", despite me showing Exim
> > logs where gmail accepted it.
> > 
> > So I honestly do not know who to believe on that particular point.
> > 
> > > If they want reliable e-mail, people should move to other e-mail
> > > solutions instead.  
> > 
> > I can only assume that it's not actually that important for most
> > users, and they would rather occasionally lose email and blame it on
> > gmail than actually take some action to improve matters.
> > 
> 
> "Anything free is worth what you pay for it"
> 

TANSTAAFL!

If you're not paying for it,  then YOU are the product.

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ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
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