Hi,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 09:17:49PM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-04-28 at 18:03 +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > gmail often errs on the side of not accepting email or sending it to
> > spam folder, even when the sender is also from gmail.
> 
> Worse, it accepts mail & then doesn’t deliver it (sometimes not even to
> the Spam folder).  It’s just not a reliable service to use, period.

A Google employee on the "mailop" mailing list once said that there is
absolutely no intentional way for gmail to silently discard an email,
unless a user with a Workspaces account has added filtering rules to do
that.

On the other hand, as someone whose business sends out invoices by
email, I have had recipients at gmail.com swear that they only paid late
because "we never received the email", despite me showing Exim logs
where gmail accepted it.

So I honestly do not know who to believe on that particular point.

> If they want reliable e-mail, people should move to other e-mail
> solutions instead.

I can only assume that it's not actually that important for most users,
and they would rather occasionally lose email and blame it on gmail than
actually take some action to improve matters.

Thanks,
Andy

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