Hello, On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:35:33AM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > I read a post a while back relating a conversation from DebCon > where professional system managers pushed NetworkManager to be the > default in Debian. While I don't mind that it should be included this > added complexity does me no good at all and I'd be very surprised > if the professional network managers aren't a very small minority of > Debian users.
When you give no actual information about what network stack you have configured and just decide to pick one that you don't like the sound of and rant about it, it's very hard to take you seriously. It's premature when you haven't shown that it's even installed. Hint: NetworkManager is not the default on Debian and only gets installed when you pick a desktop environment. The default remains ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces). Other choices are available. > More and more Debian is looking like Windows and less like the > unix of old, a collection of small tools that do one thing and do > it well. You don't yet know what is wrong but sure it's kids today or avocado on toast or something, right. Unix philosophy. Small boys in the park. Jumpers for goalposts, isn't it? Marvellous. > Pardon the rant No, I won't. If you want help, I suggest giving more factual information instead of going off on a flight of fancy about what you imagine the problem could be. Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
