On Sat 26 Jul 2025 at 12:32:35 (+0000), Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 08:02:58AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > (I'm not the OP) Oh, that's interesting -- I've always had trouble with the 
> > term "Envelope" address, and looking at the headers in the email I'm 
> > replying 
> > to, I see that the first header is "Delivered-To:" <my email address> and 
> > there 
> > is no header labeled "Envelope"<anything>.
> 
> OK, sorry, that one was probably aded by my mail server. The actual
> address delivered to shoud be in the headers somewhere near the top
> though, at least in a Received: one.

AFAICT for debian-user, the envelope address that you used is
in the Old-Return-Path: header. It's where your bounced mails
will be sent. The OP's looks the same as the From: address:
  →Old-Return-Path: <r...@cegetel.net>
  →From: rudu <r...@cegetel.net>

How it's shown is different for different lists: some will quote
the envelope-from, and even the HELO, that's used at different
steps along the way. I especially like:
  helo=antelope.elm.relay.mailchannels.net
  helo=bonobo.aspen.relay.mailchannels.net
  helo=camel.birch.relay.mailchannels.net
  helo=dormouse.elm.relay.mailchannels.net
  helo=iguana.tulip.relay.mailchannels.net
  helo=snail.cherry.relay.mailchannels.net
etc., but not when the snail takes four hours to relay the
fruits of my labour to the list.

Cheers,
David.

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