Hi,

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 04:25:56PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 03:19:40PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> > > The likes of facebook are steering people away from email as they want
> > > to keep all interaction within their eco system - email is something
> > > that lets people escape from them.
> > 
> > I would dispute your claim that email is the only form of social
> > networking that has positive value.
> 
> That is not what I say. I say that facebook, etc, want to stop people
> interacting outside of their visibility/control - email is one way of so
> doing - but not the only one.

What is the relevance of this to the fact that people just prefer
things other than email?

I didn't say "everyone is on Facebook, let's do this on Facebook". Yes
you can make a user-hostile environment more easily if it's web- or
app-based but I'm going to assume that is never going to be Debian's
goal so why even suggest it as a possibility?

There are collaboration apps and communities that aren't owned by
billionaire and venture capitalists. It's still possible to self-host
such communities.

I'm saying try to meet users where they are without being predatory to
them, or overly paternalistic like the FSF¹.

Thanks,
Andy

¹ "Don't protect your web site from AI bot DDoS with Anubis because
   Anubis uses Javascript which is the devil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

   OK boomer

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