On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 05:32:29PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 4/13/25 14:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gene,
> >
> > I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you
> > fault-find :)
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Which version of Debian is this?
> > Give us the output of /etc/os-release and of uname -a on this machine,
> > please.
<snip>
> PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)"
>
> Linux coyote 6.1.0-33-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian 6.1.133-1
> (2025-04-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
So, Debian 12.10 and right up to date with the latest kernel, not
self-compiled.
> > 2. Do you actually *have* orcaslicer 2.3.0 installed - or is it left
> > over from some previous attempt at installing something you later
> > removed?
>
OK - you do have it installed as you mention below.
> All of these AppImages run just fine, once the freeze has timed out.
> Orcaslicer, PrusaSlicer, OpenSCAD, everything runs normally except for dim
> to invisible for /some/ of the teeny little 8x8 menu icons.
>
> >
> > 3. What does the command
> >
> > ip a
> gene@coyote:~$ ip a
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group
> default qlen 1000
> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute
> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP
> group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 40:b0:76:5b:11:3c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> altname enp0s31f6
> inet 192.168.71.3/24 brd 192.168.71.255 scope global noprefixroute eno1
> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> inet6 fe80::42b0:76ff:fe5b:113c/64 scope link noprefixroute
> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 3: docker0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state
> DOWN group default
>
> link/ether 02:42:94:fc:f4:45 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>
> gene@coyote:~$ ip r
> default via 192.168.71.1 dev eno1 proto static metric 100
> 172.17.0.0/16 dev docker0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.0.1 linkdown
> 192.168.71.0/24 dev eno1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.71.3 metric 100
> net 172.17.0.1/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global docker0
> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> > show on your system?
> >
At last, some output :) OK - docker0 interface is not up. It looks as if
docker0 would be on 172.* network - again, non-routable outside the machine
if I'm right. Bring up docker0 ?
> > 4. Do you have docker (or podman or buldah) on your system?
> >
Ah, you obviously do have docker installed / had it installed :)
> > 5. Can you *show* us the output from strace, please - capture a few
> > lines.
>
> the possibly interesting part involves docker:
>
> here is all of >strace.stderr
>
> [2025-04-13 16:24:12.508497] [0x00007efc1da0e540] [trace] Initializing
> StaticPrintConfigs
> add font of HarmonyOS_Sans_SC_Bold returns 1
> add font of HarmonyOS_Sans_SC_Regular returns 1
> add font of NanumGothic-Regular returns 1
> add font of NanumGothic-Bold returns 1
> loading network module at
> /home/gene/.config/OrcaSlicer/plugins/libbambu_networking.so
> after dlopen, network_module is 0x560ef8e3ede0
> 1. lo : 127.0.0.1
> 2. eno1 : 192.168.71.3
> 3. docker0: 172.17.0.1
>
> This is probably 20k lines into the strace.comb output by running
> "OrcaSlicer &>strace.comb":
>
> ioctl(65, SIOCGIFCONF, {ifc_len=2048 => 120 /* 3 * sizeof(struct ifreq) */,
> ifc_buf=[{ifr_name="lo", ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0),
> sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}}, {ifr_name="eno1",
> ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0),
> sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.71.3")}}, {ifr_name="docker0",
> ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0),
> sin_addr=inet_addr("172.17.0.1")}}]}) = 0
> ioctl(65, SIOCGIFNETMASK, {ifr_name="lo", ifr_netmask={sa_family=AF_INET,
> sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("255.0.0.0")}}) = 0
> ioctl(65, SIOCGIFNETMASK, {ifr_name="eno1", ifr_netmask={sa_family=AF_INET,
> sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("255.255.255.0")}})
>
> I should advise since its Sunday I just updated with synaptic to a new
> kernel and rebooted then installed a couple more pieces of docker so the
> error output isn't exactly the same.
>
OK - that's understood.
> > None of us are mind readers - none of us are sat looking over your
> > shoulder. Without something to go on, every message from you about
> > problems involves significant guesswork. Share information, please,
> > about what you are *actually* seeing on screen in front of you and
> > make it easier for the rest of us. The Sherlock Holmes approach is
> > fun the first few times, but you're making it hard for us to eliminate
> > the impossible and work on the problems in hand.
> >
> > [If this helps, imagine this was a problem at a TV station that someone
> > you didn't know well was reporting to you over the phone. You'd be asking
> > questions and noting down the responses to be able to narrow down on what
> > the issue was. You're expecting all of us to *know* the answers from zero
> > information given: it's frustrating as anything.]
>
> Chuckle, BTDT for nearly half a century Andy, I'm quite used to using
> somebody else's hands over the phone. Probably, as you have seen, not so
> good letting somebody else run my hands.
>
This is a heck of a lot better though, Gene, because at least you're
showing us relevant output.
> Using strace, the freeze corresponds to a poll command for fd33, which
>
> > > appears to be a docker function. In this case the test file is an
> > > AppImage,
> > > orcaslicer-2.3.0, but any AppImage will work for this. I have quite a few,
> > > as its the only way to get the latest and greatest given debians penchant
> > > for dragging feet about projects that s/b debs but for some reason don't
> > > fit
> > > the debian POV.
> That 2.3.0 version is the latest, not a leftover. PrusaSlicer switched from
> AppImage to a snap for the newest version and the install and is nearly 50k
> files. This freeze I'm looking for started just as I figured out how to
> stuff a pan of hot mashed potatoes in orca's mouth and still reboot. Orca
> had only one volume, wide open and its announcing every key I pressed was
> close to me using my venison collector to put it out of its misery. Thanks
> Andy.
> > > But while there is a call to docker on an ipv4 address starting with 172
> > > in
> > > the trace output, I don't recall ever setting up docker on this system.
> > > So
> > > who can help me check to see if its missing and this freeze is the timeout
> > > while its waiting for docker to reply to the poll?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> > Thanks, all the best, as ever,
> >
> > Andy
> > (amaca...@debian.org)
> >
Stay well - all the best,
Andy
(amaca...@debian.org)
> > .
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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