On 4/13/25 14:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Hi Gene,

I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you
fault-find :)

Questions:

1. Which version of Debian is this?
Give us the output of /etc/os-release and of uname -a on this machine,
please.
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="12"
VERSION="12 (bookworm)"
VERSION_CODENAME=bookworm
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/";
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support";

BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/";

Linux coyote 6.1.0-33-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian 6.1.133-1 (2025-04-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux

2. Do you actually *have* orcaslicer 2.3.0 installed - or is it left
over from some previous attempt at installing something you later
removed?

All of these AppImages run just fine, once the freeze has timed out. Orcaslicer, PrusaSlicer, OpenSCAD, everything runs normally except for dim to invisible for /some/ of the teeny little 8x8 menu icons.


3. What does the command

ip a
gene@coyote:~$ ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 40:b0:76:5b:11:3c brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    altname enp0s31f6
    inet 192.168.71.3/24 brd 192.168.71.255 scope global noprefixroute eno1
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 fe80::42b0:76ff:fe5b:113c/64 scope link noprefixroute
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: docker0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default

    link/ether 02:42:94:fc:f4:45 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

gene@coyote:~$ ip r
default via 192.168.71.1 dev eno1 proto static metric 100
172.17.0.0/16 dev docker0 proto kernel scope link src 172.17.0.1 linkdown
192.168.71.0/24 dev eno1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.71.3 metric 100 net 172.17.0.1/16 brd 172.17.255.255 scope global docker0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
show on your system?

4. Do you have docker (or  podman or buldah) on your system?

5. Can you *show* us the output from strace, please - capture a few
lines.

the possibly interesting part involves docker:

here is all of >strace.stderr

[2025-04-13 16:24:12.508497] [0x00007efc1da0e540] [trace]  Initializing StaticPrintConfigs
add font of HarmonyOS_Sans_SC_Bold returns 1
add font of HarmonyOS_Sans_SC_Regular returns 1
add font of NanumGothic-Regular returns 1
add font of NanumGothic-Bold returns 1
loading network module at /home/gene/.config/OrcaSlicer/plugins/libbambu_networking.so
after dlopen, network_module is 0x560ef8e3ede0
1. lo    : 127.0.0.1
2. eno1  : 192.168.71.3
3. docker0: 172.17.0.1

This is probably 20k lines into the strace.comb  output by running "OrcaSlicer  &>strace.comb":

ioctl(65, SIOCGIFCONF, {ifc_len=2048 => 120 /* 3 * sizeof(struct ifreq) */, ifc_buf=[{ifr_name="lo", ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}}, {ifr_name="eno1", ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("192.168.71.3")}}, {ifr_name="docker0", ifr_addr={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("172.17.0.1")}}]}) = 0 ioctl(65, SIOCGIFNETMASK, {ifr_name="lo", ifr_netmask={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("255.0.0.0")}}) = 0 ioctl(65, SIOCGIFNETMASK, {ifr_name="eno1", ifr_netmask={sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0), sin_addr=inet_addr("255.255.255.0")}})

I should advise since its Sunday I just updated with synaptic to a new kernel and rebooted then installed a couple more pieces of docker so the error output isn't exactly the same.

None of us are mind readers - none of us are sat looking over your
shoulder. Without something to go on, every message from you about
problems involves significant guesswork. Share information, please,
about what you are *actually* seeing on screen in front of you and
make it easier for the rest of us. The Sherlock Holmes approach is
fun the first few times, but you're making it hard for us to eliminate
the impossible and work on the problems in hand.

[If this helps, imagine this was a problem at a TV station that someone
you didn't know well was reporting to you over the phone. You'd be asking
questions and noting down the responses to be able to narrow down on what
the issue was. You're expecting all of us to *know* the answers from zero
information given: it's frustrating as anything.]

Chuckle, BTDT for nearly half a century Andy, I'm quite used to using somebody else's hands over the phone. Probably, as you have seen, not so good letting somebody else run my hands.

Using strace, the freeze corresponds to a poll command for fd33, which

appears to be a docker function. In this case the test file is an AppImage,
orcaslicer-2.3.0, but any AppImage will work for this. I have quite a few,
as its the only way to get the latest and greatest given debians penchant
for dragging feet about projects that s/b debs but for some reason don't fit
the debian POV.
That 2.3.0 version is the latest, not a leftover. PrusaSlicer switched from AppImage to a snap for the newest version  and the install and is nearly 50k files.  This freeze I'm looking for started just as I figured out how to stuff a pan of hot mashed potatoes in orca's mouth and still reboot. Orca had only one volume, wide open and its announcing every key I pressed was close to me using my venison collector to put it out of its misery.   Thanks Andy.
But while there is a call to docker on an ipv4 address starting with 172 in
the trace output, I don't recall ever setting up docker on this system.  So
who can help me check to see if its missing and this freeze is the timeout
while its waiting for docker to reply to the poll?


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
Thanks, all the best, as ever,

Andy
(amaca...@debian.org)

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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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