On Mon 23 Dec 2024 at 06:45:54 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/22/24 9:02 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 22 Dec 2024 at 07:13:01 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 12/21/24 9:48 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 21 Dec 2024 at 06:33:07 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I'm running Debian 12.8 with MATE 1.26.0 > > > > > I wish to launch applications by clicking on an icon on the MATE > > > > > panel. > > > > > > > > > > Questions/Problems: > > > > > 1. What icons are displayable on a MATE panel (i.e. specs)? > > > > > 2. How do I search for appropriate icon? > > > > > The hierarchy under /usr/share/icons has inappropriate > > > > > structure, > > > > > giving no hint of displayable or not. (color/b&w etc. > > > > > irrelevant) > > > > > > > > Doesn't mate-desktop-environment-core depend on mate-icon-theme, > > > > which appears to be stuffed full of icons of every variety? > > > > > > That answer is is skew to the purpose of my first question ;} > > > Perhaps I should have asked: > > > > What is the specification of the set of icons displayable > > > > on a MATE panel? > > > > > > > > There seem to be a load of nice large icons under > > > > /u/sh/icons/mate/256x256/ > > > > that are classified by use at the next directory level: apps, devices, > > > > etc. > > > > > > I assume you are referring to "/usr/share/icons/mate/256x256". > > > Being in the "/usr/share/icons/mate" hierarchy seems to indicate only > > > that MATE recognizes them as "legitimate" in some sense, not that they > > > are _suitable_ for use on panels [ on my system, all default panel > > > icons are 48x48]. > > > > Apart from not knowing what you mean by legitimacy, > > legitimate == a file type/content recognized by a MATE display routine > suitable for use ~= e.g. 8x8 too coarse, 256x256 uselessly fine detail
Surely your eyes should be the judge of that, rather than some DE or web developer with 6/3 acuity and the modern passion for placing washed out grey objects on a faded grey background. > > that makes things > > easier. Just type: > > > > $ xzgv /usr/share/icons/mate/48x48/apps > > xzgv, an interesting app that would be more convenient if left column > displayed a miniature of icon with size appropriate to line spacing > (semantic content of filename can approach absolute zero). It's designed for picture collections (JPEGs), and can do that with v (increase size) and Alt-u to create thumbnails, but you need write permission on the directory, which you won't have in /usr/share/icons/. I chose xzgv as it's easy to drive it with just those few keystrokes (space b z) and little instruction. But I assume you meant, by mentioning thumbnails, that you wanted to see all the icons at the same time. That, too, is easily done, but requires a little arithmetic: $ montage /usr/share/icons/mate/48x48/apps/*.png -mode concatenate -tile <X>x<Y> montage.png The values of X and Y aren't critical, but as you lose the filenames, you'll have to calculate which file contains your favourite icon, or else rerun xzgv, which is probably easier than adding labels with montage -label %f. > As to "How do I search for appropriate icon?", when drifting off to > sleep last night I mused on "Would a database be more suitable than a > hierarchical file structure?" YMMV ;} I can't think why that would benefit either the system or your search. Cheers, David.