On 12/15/24 15:15, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/10/24 23:06, David Christensen wrote:
On 12/10/24 18:07, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 18:01:24 -0800, David Christensen wrote:
If official Debian packages cause your system to crash, then your
Debian
installation is broken.
Or the hardware is broken. Running a specfic program may exercise the
broken hardware in a way that causes it to fail, while other programs
do not.
If the OP runs Debian OOTB, okay. But, Gene does anything but that.
if debian kept the popular aps up to date, I'd use them. T-bird is an
example. With suricata gone its still going out to lala - land while
fetching new mail. The beta is in .xz format, unpacked into it own /
home/gene/thunderbird directory is running fine. The only real problem
is its creating and using a whole new mail directory, and none my
sorting filters yet exist. With suracata gone, it says it connected to
imap.server at my isp, collecting 599 msgs to catch up, but goes out to
lunch for an hour using 100% of a core, the gui is dead, mouse clicks
anyplace are ignored, killall kills it instantly. Just did a full-
upgrade, 7 security pkgs, now its fetching the same 577 headers & htop
thinks its running ok. But it got to the last header count, went to
100.5% of a core, no response to a mouse click any place. This is your
t-bird doing that, beta is working fine, you are reading it.
As you already know, the software in Debian Stable lags behind upstream
releases by design. If you want a newer releases, then please seek
other options such as Debian Backports, Debian Testing, Debian Unstable,
etc..
If and when you choose Debian Stable or Old Stable, then please KISS and
run it OOTB. You must bend your will to Debian, not the other way
around. I use and recommend Debian Old Stable for a desktop daily
driver and as a VirtualBox host (via official Oracle packages integrated
into the Debian package system). If and when you encounter an issue on
a KISS and OOTB Debian Stable or Old Stable system, then using the
appropriate Debian support resources makes sense (including this ML).
Build your custom *nix systems on dedicated hardware (e.g. your CNC
controllers) or in virtual machines. If and when you encounter an
issue, isolate it. If it is reproducible on a KISS and OOTB Debian
Stable or Old Stable system, then see the above paragraph. If not, then
please seek out the appropriate support resources (such as the CAD/CAM
software vendor) and/or please use your knowledge and skills to find and
fix the issue.
Merry Christmas all.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :-)
David
