Hi Gene,

On 12/13/24 17:04, gene heskett wrote:

On 12/13/24 18:23, Tom Dial wrote:


On 12/13/24 02:48, gene heskett wrote:
On 12/13/24 03:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 01:53:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:

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That was the system config at the original install, and every one of the
subsequent installs, nothing I did with the installer prevented it from
installing orca and brltty. Text only, several variations of graphical have
been tried.
Hm. Difficult to tell, then.

Another clue perhaps: where does t-bird try to save a draft copy of a msg
while editing it?, its driving me crazy with failed to write a draft msg
every 5 minutes.
I'd venture the strong guess that this is a totally unrelated rabbit
hole. In our trade, there are several of them, as you quite certainly
know.

Cheers
Wherever it try's, t-b seemto be interpreting the lag as a possible perms 
denial. I did an ls -lR on the directory in home where I put the unpacked .xz, 
and I own every byte of it. The only thing I don't own in /home/gene is .. 
That's root:root as expected.

The correct permissions for your login directory (/home/gene/) are gene:gene, assuming you log in 
as "gene" and would have been set to that if you created the user "gene" during 
install.


No feedback on this? Wrong ownership of a user's login directory is fairly 
likely to cause permission problems for the user.

/home should have permissions root:root.

I do not know whether that has anything to do with the problems you are having, 
but correcting it might have some effect and might head off others.

With gnome, orca is installed as a dependency. The presumptively correct way to tame it seems to be 
via the gnome menu item Settings->Accessibility. Mine has every option set to "off" 
except "Enable Animations," which causes me no grief.
My menu has no Accessibility bar under settings.

If brltty is installed and you don't need it, the proper action is "apt purge 
brltty," which I have done on occasion.

I've done that to both orca and brltty, the dependency's seem to have been 
removed now.

Through bookworm, gnome depends on orca, and removing orca (the Debian way) 
will remove gnome. You can do it, and that will leave its dependencies alone, 
but without their normal dependency structure. That will leave a large handful 
of installed packages that will be subject to autoremoval if you ever do that, 
which may degrade your system's utility. It also is likely to lead to 
unintended and possibly undesirable effects later on during the normal course 
of maintenance.

Regards,
Tom Dial


No change though.


Regards,
Tom Dial


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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