On 12/13/24 09:09, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 15:00:21 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote:
I'll say it the installer is broke!!!!!
I've had it install orca and company also.
If you want to help Debian fix its installer, give some details.
What version did you install?
That has been posted ad infinitum. Bookworm, netinstall. You all have simply choosen to disbelieve me. Gotta be something I did.
  (The exact image filename is helpful.)
What tasks did you select during the task selection stage?
What hardware device do you suspect led to orca being installed?
If that device is detachable, did you try again after detaching the
device?  If so, what results did you get?
the original bookworm net installer, the only usb plugged in was the logitek keyboard/ mouse button. NOTHING ELSE was plugged into any usb port. IS THIS LOUD ENOUGH?
I have only three systems left running debian and they will be in the dustbin 
of history soon.

Did I mention the installer is broke!!!!!
Well.  It sounds like you don't actually want to help.  Unfortunate.

I would not call it that, but the defense of what I've called a broken installer that I've gotten from complaining about it, downright insulting in a couple instances is most certainly seen as encouraging me/us to switch distro's.

I would in a heartbeat if linuxcnc would build on anything else for sure.  It will build on the genuine pi4's, my biggest metal lathe is being run by a pi4, so I've done that many times but the interface changes are costly at nearly $300 total per machine, 3 machines.  I'd have to output nearly $1300 just for that essentially starting from square one.  I'd eventually save that in the energy bill, the pi4 and its AOC monitor idles at 22 watts, and I've 3 old Dell's burning 200+ watts each that would get ripped out.

The question then is will I live long enough to see the savings, I'm 90 yo now.  DM-II for 45 years, pacemaker, stents in places and a TAVR valve in my heart now.  I'm done if that valve fails. Estimated life of the TAVR is 10 years, and I'm in year 6 now.



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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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