On 2/25/24, to...@tuxteam.de <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 06:05:26PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> May I interject a different perspective? >> what brings greater freedom, asking that words be changed by many, that >> some >> see, no matter how justified from their view as harmful? Or teaching >> those >> people how to free themselves from being controlled by those words? > > Not using the words doesn't remove the injustice.
Words do not create injustice. You are mistaken. Broken and damaged individuals perceive injustice. > I'm not that naïve. It's just a question of politeness. Actually I wish you were not so naive as to actually believe the dichomatic trollop you are holding to. > As an example: I left the Christian religion long time ago. If I visit a > church (to admire its architecture, for example), I behave with a modicum > of respect and restrain myself of farting aloud. If I visit a mosque (I'm > not a Muslim) I take off my shoes. > > Because I know there are people in there who might well be offended by some > behaviour. > > It's that easy. No it's not that easy. What you say here ("It's that easy") is simply not true. Only in very limited and strictly controlled environments can you get away with such superficiality. The West placades docility of mind. This does not mean that a docile mind is worthy of any esteem. >> Yes, your goals may be honorable to be sure, but in the end do not the >> words >> still win if the control remains? > > Removing the injustice is a much longer process, and it's important to > put a lot of work in it. The above is just a friendly acknowledgement > "yes, I see you". Just politeness. Not more. No, you missed their point. Either intentionally (in which case you would rightly be held as manipulative) or unintentionally (in which case you could rightly be held as docile of mind). > After all, I try to be polite to you too (I might fail at that, dunno). "Look, at least I tried to be polite, so please ignore the fact I've ignored what you said and allow my unspoken assumptions to prevail" It is really, really dull at this stage.