On 2/23/24, Arno Lehmann <a...@its-lehmann.de> wrote: > On 23.02.24 at 10:33, Mariusz Gronczewski wrote: >> On 22.02.2024 11:19, Ralph Aichinger wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> I know this is a loaded topic... > ... >> There is no good reason *why*. It's entirely US political feel-good >> activism > > Statement one above proven.
Missing the wood for the trees. Acknowledging that part of your interlocutor's statement which does have substance, is a more useful foundation for actual communication. Your response to Ralph might be witty, but it is without empathy. >> All it does is wastes tens of thousands of people's time once the have >> to fix > > If there's a single person in the world who feels existing terminology > to hurt them, I consider my usage of such terms. You are free to do all such consideration you feel appropriate. You have failed to name the objection, which afaict is the asking of "tens of thousands" of people in our community to spend their precious Soul attention on the real psychological and emotional needs of a handful of damaged individuals in genuine need of healing. > If it makes one person feel better, I think I did something good. Your good intentions are applauded. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, at least when you put your imposition on others to "you must act with the good intentions which I do". > If it makes others feel worse, I have to balance arguments. Arguments > such as "it was always thus" or "it's too much effort" are not strong ones. If someone is genuinely in need of healing, then the Debian mailing lists is not an appropriate place for professional help. If someone is not in need of professional help and genuine healing, the demand that the community put the attention of thousands (or in fact 10s of thousands or more) on the delicate emotions of a tiny number of vocal individuals, is an abhorrent demand, virtually be definition. > As it happens, I prefer being called "woke" above being rude. It is good that you have personally found a way to feel good about your activism. You are applauded, certainly by those who are aware of the benefit you may have brought to their delicate and fragile emotions. And I say that with no sarcasm at all. It is good that people in this world care about one another. I have no objection that whatsoever, and in fact when one is lifted a little, I hold that this lifting has a subtle benefit for us all. > Oh, and tech and culture can not be separated, but that's probably also > a loaded topic. Every loaded topic, can be unloaded. Unloading a loaded topic simply requires sufficient linguistic capacity. Keep at your efforts and you should find success in this regard. I consider such pursuit a useful endeavor.
