On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 03:01:07PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 12/27/23, Tixy <t...@yxit.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-12-27 at 11:05 -0600, Mike McClain wrote:
> >> If I recall correctly, Firefox used to have a checkbox in the
> >> preferences to permit or deny auto updates. In this version 121.0 for
> >> the Raspberry PI, that's no longer so and I'm quite sure that FF
> >> updated itself without asking.
> >

All bets are off ... not Debian, potentially

<snip>
> 
> Something still doesn't sound right. I've got that 121 off the Mozilla
> website. It has to wait for my intervention. It complains that it does
> not have permission to install each progressive update. In my beady
> little brain, that's how it should be for safety's sake.
> 

Standard disclaimers apply: other people and distributions do things
differently. Raspberry Pi OS != Debian. 

> That said, I know that there are circumstances where the User can only
> untar/install that outside package under something like
> /home/user/(.)local. Number One reason would be the User does not have
> any admin/root permissions.
> 

> If that was the case, Mozilla would probably be able to silently run
> all the updates it wants in the background. If that tar file was
> untarred as root instead, Mozilla... can't touch this.
> 

How do you know? You don't control what's provided ... in this instance,
you are probably right.

> The only other thing I can think of, and that I hate to have to type,
> is virus so I hope it's "just" something about the permissions level
> when the package is installed. Permissions would explain one part of
> what happened. I'm going to respond to the other part in a few.. That
> toolbar thing is a party of two........
> 

Virus unlikely - flatpak / snap or any other packaging for Mozilla 
could do anything ... I suspect it's just an artefact of downloading
the Mozilla site version rather than the Debian ESR version.

> Cindy :)
> -- 

All the very best, as ever,

Andy
> Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
> * runs with birdseed *
> 

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