On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 01:25:37 +0300
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mi, 23 iun 21, 17:12:07, Michael Grant wrote:
> > > Apparently the lines are blurry enough for you to include Signal in that 
> > > list.
> > 
> > Why?  Not blurry at all.  Signal is just as closed a system as
> > WhatsApp.  Maybe more private, but unless you know something I don't,
> > Signal doesn't talk to anything other than other Signal.  Puppeted
> > bridges are not interoperability, as far as I am aware, all users
> > still need to be on Signal.
> 
> You seem to be using a completely different meaning of 'proprietary' (no 
> federation) than I do (closed source software, proprietary protocol that 
> must be reversed engineered, patents, etc.).

Well, Michael's original post that you challenged contrasted:

> a standards based system such as mail or the web and a proprietary
> system such as facebook, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc etc.

Would you call Signal "a standards based system?" I understand that the
software itself is open source, and the project does publish various
"Signal Protocal" libraries, but I'm not sure that's quite enough to
call it "standards based."

Celejar

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