Hi,

On 2021-05-19 11:40 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 06:24:20PM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:22 PM Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <
>> deb...@polynamaude.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi !
>>> Is there some IRC channel for Debian ?
>>>
>>
>>   https://wiki.debian.org/IRC
> 
> It's worth mentioning that there are #debian channels on at least two
> different IRC networks: OFTC and Freenode.
> 
> All of the "official" Debian channels are on the OFTC network, because
> for whatever reason(*), all of the Debian developers moved over there
> about 15 years ago.
> 
> However, almost all of the Debian *users* are on the Freenode network.
> 
> It is what it is.
> 
> Freenode's #debian has more people, and you will probably get help there
> faster, so long as your question is actually on-topic and reasonable
> for an IRC channel.  However, all of the specialized channels (like
> #debian-next, #debian-boot, or #debian-mentors) are on the OFTC network.
> If your question is highly specific, or if you are not using a stable
> Debian release, you may need to be on both networks.
> 
I'll go with both...
Between two bad options, act crazy and take both !
> Example of common *off-topic* questions for #debian (ones which will get
> you ignored, yelled at, or kicked out of the channel, depending on how
> you act) include: questions about sid/unstable, questions about Ubuntu,
> questions about MX Linux, and questions about Kali Linux.
> 
I try not to be off-topics but sometime the line is thin. I give you a
small example...
Yesterday I downloaded the virtualbox package from the Ubuntu repository
(because I just found it's not in Debian anymore) and compiled it on
Debian. Because all the software that I can't find compiled in the
Debian normal repository, I get them from either Ubuntu or Kali and
compile them myself. Yes I compiled all the packages that are in Kali
but not in Debian, to make my own Buster with Kali software. That was
"hell of a mess" but as I did it before with Stretch, I already had a base.

Not let say, I'm having a specific problem related to some choice made
for build options in the Debian files buildflags.mk, is this question
off-topic ?

Yes because I went and get it off the Ubuntu repository ?
No because I'm building on Debian Buster ?

If answer is "yes" then will I get the same answer if I get the file
from the git repository and simplify my job by getting some build files
(rules control etc.) from the Ubuntu package ?
And if I do write the build files myself...

Add to this some "power pleasure" of admins and you get a nice soup !

> (*)I shouldn't speak ill of the dead, but some of you will remember the
> guy I'm thinking of, a Freenode admin who drove a lot of people away.  Or
> was the network still called OPN at the time?  I don't rememeber when
> the name changed....
> 

Sorry to read this...
I used to be a therapist, maybe I could have helped...


-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development



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