Incoming from Paul Morgan: > On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:10:35 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > Paul Morgan writes: > >> Having said that, when I see a watch, it convinces me of the existence of > >> the watchmaker > > > > And when you view the watchmaker as a watch do you see an infinite > > regression of watchmakers? > > 1. I don't view the watchmaker "as a watch". > 2. The watchmaker is extrauniversal by definition, and anything > extrauniversal is unknowable. Cause and effect may be a local phenomenon.
Anything extrauniversal can have no effect on that universe. Variable is out of scope. That much is knowable. Hence, existence or not of proposed watchmaker is irrelevant to anything inside that universe. See "Brief History of Time" - Hawking. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]