On Monday 27 August 2018 13:07:27 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 27 Aug 2018 at 11:37:48 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 August 2018 11:11:37 David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > > > David writes: > > > > > Or are you talking about some type of "shared channel" of > > > > > which I have no knowledge? > > > > > > > > Cable providers may have a great many customers on a single > > > > cable with large (but limited) bandwidth. > > > > > > Oh, like me, you mean. When we wanted to get our cable strung from > > > the pole with the least obstructed view of our house, the linesman > > > first told us that all the terminations were taken, but on ringing > > > the office, he found that one line was not subscribed to, so we > > > were able to connect to that pole. When I walk down the back > > > alleys, I can see other poles connected to the same main coax feed > > > that links the poles. > > > > > > I'm still scratching my head why subscribing to NNTP newsgroups > > > should lead to bandwidth problems rather than usage ones. I can > > > hit my bandwidth limits in many other ways like downloading > > > youtube videos, watching TV, etc, but the hard limit is my usage, > > > where I would end up paying money for any excess. > > > > That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the > > bandwidth from the main trunk lines to the isp. NNTP is a huge > > bandwidth hog regardless of how much of it your isp accepts for > > spooling on local disk to serve you. > > I didn't know they were asking the ISP to *host* the newsgroups, > just to allow NNTP stuff to pass from whoever is hosting it to > the user, who pays for the usage they make of it. > > > > > Some rural providers may have limited backhaul bandwidth. They > > > > make promises to customers based on optimistic estimates of peak > > > > usage. > > > > Here at least, thats gradually getting better. > > I read that improvements are very patchy in the US. > > > > Now it appears that you're using "usage" where I would write > > > "bandwidth". Am I in a minority of one here? Bandwidth is the rate > > > of transfer of bits, whereas usage is the quantity of bits > > > transferred irrespective of how fast they accumulated. > > > > Thats a pretty good view of the differences. > > But I get the impression that we have another baud/bitrate muddle. > > Cheers, > David.
Likely, David. The number of folks that understand the difference in any given crowd is a rather low percentage. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
