On Monday 27 August 2018 11:11:37 David Wright wrote: > On Sat 25 Aug 2018 at 14:27:38 (-0500), John Hasler wrote: > > David writes: > > > Or are you talking about some type of "shared channel" of which I > > > have no knowledge? > > > > Cable providers may have a great many customers on a single cable > > with large (but limited) bandwidth. > > Oh, like me, you mean. When we wanted to get our cable strung from the > pole with the least obstructed view of our house, the linesman first > told us that all the terminations were taken, but on ringing the > office, he found that one line was not subscribed to, so we were able > to connect to that pole. When I walk down the back alleys, I can see > other poles connected to the same main coax feed that links the poles. > > I'm still scratching my head why subscribing to NNTP newsgroups should > lead to bandwidth problems rather than usage ones. I can hit my > bandwidth limits in many other ways like downloading youtube videos, > watching TV, etc, but the hard limit is my usage, where I would end up > paying money for any excess. > That bandwidth limit is not on your side of the isp, its the bandwidth from the main trunk lines to the isp. NNTP is a huge bandwidth hog regardless of how much of it your isp accepts for spooling on local disk to serve you.
> > Some rural providers may have limited backhaul bandwidth. They make > > promises to customers based on optimistic estimates of peak usage. Here at least, thats gradually getting better. > > Now it appears that you're using "usage" where I would write > "bandwidth". Am I in a minority of one here? Bandwidth is the rate of > transfer of bits, whereas usage is the quantity of bits transferred > irrespective of how fast they accumulated. Thats a pretty good view of the differences. > > Cheers, > David. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>