On Monday 26 December 2016 00:19:31 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500 > > Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > >On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote: > >> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day; > >> > > >> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite > >> > install. > >> > > >> > That means the only x is enough to export it. But I know for a > >> > fact that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so. > >> > > >> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel > >> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater > >> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the > >> > time I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I > >> > could not force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as > >> > root, overwrite the overlay stuff. > >> > > >> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf. > >> > > >> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets > >> > me a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to > >> > allow me to put keyboard focus on it. From there I can cd > >> > around, run nano, or even run the app I built this to run, > >> > linuxcnc. > >> > > >> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude > >> > has totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency > >> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of > >> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and > >> > looking at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't > >> > satisfied. I want to install it, but not as it shows in the > >> > view. > >> > > >> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install > >> > a bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500 > >> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff. > >> > > >> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the > >> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something > >> > in polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged > >> > in user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't > >> > open display 10:. > >> > > >> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a > >> > useable desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of > >> > libreoffice I do NOT need on a limited resource machine. > >> > > >> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a > >> > dozen other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine. > >> > > >> > Many Thanks for any help. > >> > >> Package: task-lxde-desktop > >> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde > >> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic, > >> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us, > >> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca > >> > >> so how about: # aptitude -R > > > >That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous > > experience with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every > > time, I don't do anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea > > of package management the last time I wanted something like htop > > installed, was to rip out 278 other vital packages, so I had to > > locate the install dvd and start all over. By the time I actually > > had it running the machine again, was about 3 days work. Burn me > > once was educational, twice was because I must learn slow. Its not > > going to do anything again without knowing exactly what that next > > keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do. > > > >I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is > >installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10: > >If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter > > it, and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in > > user. > > > >The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability > > to run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs > > camp. I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998. > > After 18 years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude > > has demonstrated that twice already. > > > >So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what > > that commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do. > > > >> Cheers, > >> David. > > > >Cheers David, Gene Heskett > > To run synaptic: > go to root as user pi - su > run synaptic - synaptic > > It does not need pkexec to make it run from root. screen scrape: pi@raspberrypi:~/linuxcnc/configs/lathe $ su Password: root@raspberrypi:/home/pi/linuxcnc/configs/lathe# synaptic X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
** (synaptic:2792): WARNING **: Could not open X display X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused (synaptic:2792): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0 Next? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
