-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:51:03 -0500 Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
>On Sunday 25 December 2016 23:05:03 David Wright wrote: > >> On Sun 25 Dec 2016 at 22:19:27 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Greetings everybody, I hope you have had and enjoyable day; >> > >> > I am currently logged into a raspi 3b with an armhf jessie-lite >> > install. >> > >> > That means the only x is enough to export it. But I know for a fact >> > that x can run quite well, I have seen it do so. >> > >> > But that install was well and truly wrecked because the kernel >> > wasn't pinned, and it was a realtime kernel. So the updater >> > overwrote the kernel with one that can't do the job and by the time >> > I realized the kernel running wasn't the right one, and I could not >> > force the re-installation because it couldn't, even as root, >> > overwrite the overlay stuff. >> > >> > So this is a fresh install of jessie-lite for armhf. >> > >> > Installing lightdm, and telling it to open a default "seat" gets me >> > a teeny little, non-movable terminal with just enough mouse to allow >> > me to put keyboard focus on it. From there I can cd around, run >> > nano, or even run the app I built this to run, linuxcnc. >> > >> > But I need a real "desktop", so despite the fact that aptitude has >> > totally destroyed my systems twice with its wild dependency >> > removals, its the only thing I have that can show me a list of >> > files. So I am sitting with task-lxde-desktop selected, and looking >> > at a screenfull of red because its dependencies aren't satisfied. I >> > want to install it, but not as it shows in the view. >> > >> > If it will install everything marked in red, then it will install a >> > bunch of stuff I absolutely do not need for this job, like 500 >> > megabytes of libreoffice stuff. >> > >> > Help please, or tell me how to run synaptic, it won't let the >> > default user, pi run it without the ROOT passwd, which something in >> > polkit-1 has kittens over because that makes me not the logged in >> > user, or if I become root and try to run synaptic, it can't open >> > display 10:. >> > >> > So aptitude guru's, how do I install lxde so I might have a useable >> > desktop, without also installing half a gigabyte of libreoffice I do >> > NOT need on a limited resource machine. >> > >> > If I need to use a libreoffice/openoffice tool, I have half a dozen >> > other x86 boxes about the place that can run it just fine. >> > >> > Many Thanks for any help. >> >> Package: task-lxde-desktop >> Depends: tasksel (= 3.31+deb8u1), task-desktop, lightdm, lxde >> Recommends: lxtask, lxlauncher, xsane, libreoffice-gtk, synaptic, >> iceweasel, libreoffice, libreoffice-help-en-us, mythes-en-us, >> hunspell-en-us, hyphen-en-us, system-config-printer, gnome-orca >> >> so how about: # aptitude -R >> >That will not tell me what it will do, and with my previous experience >with aptitude leading to a complete re-install every time, I don't do >anything without knowing what it will do. Its idea of package management >the last time I wanted something like htop installed, was to rip out 278 >other vital packages, so I had to locate the install dvd and start all >over. By the time I actually had it running the machine again, was >about 3 days work. Burn me once was educational, twice was because I >must learn slow. Its not going to do anything again without knowing >exactly what that next keypress, other than a 'q', is going to do. > >I would much rather we figure out how I can run synaptic, it is >installed, but if root tries to run it, it can't use display 10: >If pi tries to run synaptic-pkexec, it asks for the root pw, I enter it, >and something in polkit-1 screams because I am not the logged in user. > >The paranoia about denying the user, root or otherwise, the ability to >run a decent package manager is wearing thin in this old chiefs camp. >I've been running a linux house exclusively since rh5 in 1998. After 18 >years, I know well how much damage root can do, aptitude has >demonstrated that twice already. > >So please, lets make synaptic run for me if you can't tell me what that >commandline "aptitude -R" launch will do. > >> Cheers, >> David. > > >Cheers David, Gene Heskett To run synaptic: go to root as user pi - su run synaptic - synaptic It does not need pkexec to make it run from root. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlhgqGQACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0ICF0Qf9HKfF+Dzrcfo2L5OGQdmB0oAMq4GlqF1vZAnL8DPH1PWsjX3w7xkHjPFt JIEreLoCvZAAFzO0OKTOKKN/CV6udO1I/JFFfrrUiUdbyZTplbP6AI6VjhPCroB+ IuhIknxcwnEGRqM0CGiGfpckmVU8gm0CB/TSMz2z2ERCcvH/eumRjjnbiyEqSbEu GZJOFlJ3VuyLd91824hpBJN0GNY7Si9GNWGgBdNycNtpFDaYLuxKKlkdqX2+By+U QJDc0c0z9Xbhx5MND+zI0hFM7D5Lp4uTMNlmy18qtQtU4E2iFue6gpe8WI1DS7aB fFBhI3jSksSxt4/rtnnRC2WyLoxZOA== =Xzbp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
