On 10/22/2016 2:56 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
    2. Debian 8.6 w MATE run from LIVE DVD _displays_ the correct time
    3. Debian 8.6 w MATE installed from DVD 1 of 13 with aid of custom
preseed.cfg
       _displays_ a time 5 hours earlier.

My guess: the Live DVD uses NTP so as not to depend on the hwclock
whereas your installs don't.

As the saying goes, "that does not compute". The machine in question has not been connected to the internet, or any other network, for several years ;/


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