On 08/19/2015 06:26 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 01:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >>> I thought all of them did it in their free time.
> It's (as always) a mix. Some companies do give Debian Developers time
> to work in Debian.
>
> >>>> I understand your
> >>>> frustration (I often swear at my computer too, and do even worse
> >>>> things), but I think the best way forward is to get involved.
> >>> Some of us just aren't enough use for that, sadly. So all we can
> do is be
> >>> grateful. And remember:
> Everyone can get involved. A little newbie help here, a friendly word
> there,
> a little bug report.
>
> >>> you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
> But it's still important to try.
>
> >>> And I actually think that you cannot please some of the people ever.
> How would you know you're dealing with one of those without trying?
>
> ;-)
>
> Regards
> -- tomás
>>
>>
> I really do appreciate all of the work that the developers do and the
whole open source world is fantastic. Debian is especially easy to
maintain and, with the newer installers, easy to install. That said, I
still think that better support for the new user (of any package) is
critical to the spread of Debian systems. I know that the developers are
caught between a rock and a hard place with time and must choose to
sacrifice development time for documentation writing time. But if Linux
is to ever be more than third best behind windows and mack
> the nooby support must improve. Before retirement, I was my
organizations sole developer of medium sized database applications for
use by idiots. My criteria of adaquate user support was to give the
finished product to the secretary (or other marginally computer literate
person) and take notes. I learned a lot that way. My main defense of my
views is the huge difference in the friendliness of the various packages
available. Obviously, some packages are just way more complicated than
others. But with that taken in to account there is still a large
variation in their usability. My first choice for making a program
usable is a well functioning setup GUI. My second choice is well
developed, clearly written (no jargon) on line help. My choice of last
resort - although absolutely necessary - is a mailing list. So far
redmine has pretty well failed my first two choices. At this point, I'm
ripping it out and starting over.
>
> Gary R
>
1. aptitude install redmine redmine-sqlite
2. Configure database for redmine/instances/default with
dbconfig-common? Yes
3. Database type - for the sake of simplicity - sqlite3
4. cd /usr/share/doc/redmine and read the files there
5. less README.Debian:
key points:
- This redmine package is designed to automatically configure database
BUT NOT the web server.
- By default, redmine admin account log/pass is admin/admin
- MANUAL WEB SERVER CONFIGURATION
examples are available in /usr/share/doc/redmine/examples.
6. ls -l examples, see what is in apache2-passenger-alias.conf and
apache2-passenger-host.conf
7. aptitude install libapache2-mod-passenger
8. cp /usr/share/doc/redmine/examples/apache2-passenger-alias.conf
/etc/apache2/sites-available/
9. a2ensite apache2-passenger-alias
10. edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf, set
servername to localhost
11. /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
12. open browser and navigate to localhost/redmine - login as admin/admin.
Took less than 15 minutes.
So in my humble opinion the package is in perfect shape.
Regards,
Alex
