Ric Moore wrote:
On 10/15/2014 12:34 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:

That's a problem in itself.  There should be room for real discussion as
is taking place here on the debian-user list, without fear of having
posts filtered.

I agree, but they (the moderators) have a vested interest when someone posts something considered "illegal" and have to ban such posts with notice to the OP. They HAVE to do that. Otherwise, they (Debian) get sued. Quite a few of the anti-systemd remarks have brushed up against those boundaries. Red Hat has lawyers on retainers, sitting in rocking chairs, being paid even while doing nothing. So, damn skippy moderators can not let things get out of hand. I wouldn't have that job, as it's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

In that light, what would you have moderators do? What they could do is shut down public list support, so they are 100% safe legally, and let others provide that from their kitchen table server. There is that option. Ubuntu moderates the stuffings out of their support lists now.

So, I hope everyone keeps this in mind before hitting "send" while passionately debating a topic. Ric


Actually, it's the other way around. As I understand the case law, if you don't do ANY moderation, the rules of free speech arise - they only person who might be liable for anything is a poster. On the other and, as soon as you do ANY moderation, the moderator and his/her organization become liable for slander, libel, etc. -- the same way a newspaper becomes liable for such things when posted in a letters to the editor column. The exception has to do with taking down copyrighted material if you get a takedown notice - there's a "safe haven" provision in one of the laws.

(I support a bunch of lists on our server, and did some research into this way back when. I believe the case law involves some AOL moderated forums. Mind you things may have changed since I last looked.)

Miles Fidelman



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