Please reply to the list and not directly to me.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:39 AM, PETER ZOELLER
<peter_zoel...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I'm sorry but I shouldn't have to remove systemd but be given a choice as to
> which one I want at the time of the install just as I choose my file system,
> my software, my networking, where I want my boot loader installed, etc.  To
> assume on your part what I need or want and then expect me to counter your
> choice by requiring me to uninstall is rather presumptuous on your part just
> the same approach that I would expect from Microsoft not Linux.
>
> Peter
>

I made no assumptions, as I had absolutely nothing to do with the
decision of making systemd the default init system.  I merely point
out that it is possible (and quite easy) for a debian-user to remove
systemd.

If you do not want systemd to *ever* be installed on your system, well
then that's another discussion that does not belong in this thread.


>
> On Friday, October 10, 2014 11:01 AM, James Ensor <belgianpain...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:57 AM, PETER ZOELLER <peter_zoel...@rogers.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is really ticking me off.  We are becoming just like Microsoft that
>> one
>> size fits all.  Linux has always been about choice and modularity and
>> reconfigurability where a user or admin can choose that what suits him/her
>> and the type of system they want.  You want sysvinit you use Debian or
>> Slackware, want Upstart go to Ubuntu, want systemd go to Fedora/Redhat.
>> Where in all this is my choice to have my system boot via the means I or
>> any
>> user or admin considers to be the appropriate method to boot their system?
>> What's wrong with you people?  Have you lost sight of why Linus designed
>> this system?  Its about simplicity, modularity and reconfigurability.
>> This
>> approach with systemd flies in the face of all this.  Its like demanding
>> that you can use only ext4 as your file system.
>
>>
>>
>
> The point of this thread was to demonstrate that you *do* still have a
> choice.  It's relatively simple to remove systemd from your Debian
> installation if you choose to.
>
>
>


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