-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:04:24PM +0200, lee wrote: > >> Sven Joachim <svenj...@gmx.de> writes: >> >>> On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote: >>>> Shall we have a vote? AFAIK, there's nothing that would >>>> speak against having one, in this very mailing list. Why not >>>> ask the users? Why should only Debian developers be allowed >>>> to vote but not the users? > > Users DO get a vote. Every time you download an ISO for debian, > that's a vote. Every time you install a system as debian, that's a > vote. Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with systemd as central". In the case at hand, the latter two are what people are asking to be able to have a vote (or at least meaningful input other than making noise) on, by virtue of being users who will be affected by the decision rather than by virtue of doing work to implement the decision. Now, I can perfectly well see the argument that someone who does do the work and has proven themselves reliable in that regard should get *more* of a voice and more of a vote than someone who just demands that things be done the way they want them. But for the latter person to be represented only by the voices of those among the "do the work" group whom they can convince to share their view, rather than having a direct voice (however disproportionately smaller) of their own, smacks of "only the people who do the work have any say in things" - of "what the users think doesn't matter by itself". Which seems problematic. - -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJUIBzXAAoJEASpNY00KDJrYzcQAIOKyFUQIA6bFXXmj6Ml/8IJ vjTbG0Wx83zBaOxi+rrDemUsQhQ+rKRcqH5+k1eGWIj/JYzmzxlFqwR8brft0ukb k8AU8NHmKakgnFukBbBUXI6g6zhuzPOUpcKekf3+eu3N05wbA5kckC0vv2gGqO2Y ulbMZp4toCi/0Q4IBvciexzswD2GJagObksLiqyuFwG8lKGPTMkUEqUvRudCVlL8 GvT+NeLAPqQXZ0LHW2QGbubm/HogzlsZhJnmTuBo8EDnmiiGASh5EO0UaDzQ6jrw iwSGee3/xz5x4HtaUeV2sj3zZX74q3+IE7N6B0mSe1pe/SdPqb1iJstEwzl1HEHE rHo3zEa1LpfvR4KiqcA5ASWDLOlcybQD23KEYZbcWZom0Ijtdh0yUIhCfvE0A9b8 ejJ1cfuhcHBTIp2xrza1byZsMBDCII1WeIeXYlvFJPoXXctuSwv4xRVvx19hLODm al2ZolCUwkrV0+n7c7A9UGAfNWdpHv81zKeedZHipa9Z+SdmKp/DgwseuUmj8n0z GJP7gT0juAbTTYgBRvuixZss42CSfczQYi5lTpYYVIIdiYHseeLnDxy7hIQtit2n pvQec914BLC8WUJ4qYFfaqbndGV/KAt31KMJpYm1iaX6n0cR2XGmDtU5UB1VQoEu idzqQG85QIinuJS5wIzc =mxSY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54201cd7.3090...@fastmail.fm
