* On 2014 21 Sep 06:52 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > The issue of the day (week) on debian-devel seems to be systemd-shim -- > which kind of has to work for anyone to use an alternate init system; but > seems NOT to work (or at least lag behind).
When systemd-shim is forced to chase the taillights of systemd, it is doomed to always lag behind. As the authors of systemd have apparently opted not to constrain themselves to a stable/published API or limit the scope of their project, systemd-shim will always be in catch up mode. This recalls a term from the late '90s when the emerging Linux desktop was fighting to establish itself against the Microsoft hegemony--"Chasing MS' taillights." It would seem that systemd-shim faces a similar situation. I am most concerned about the systemd project's intention to subsume many other projects rather than simply be a cooperative member of the vast Free Software ecosystem. It seems to me that this is the source of much of the angst presented here and elsewhere. To me this is a troubling attitude that overshadows whatever technical improvement systemd sought to bring to the Free desktop. The angst is a natural reaction to this sort of invasive attitude in what has been mostly a very cooperative community for the previous 18 years that I have been working with and using Free Software. Unfortunately, this attitude and its product have become a large enough presence that they're no longer just a routing problem. What I will be looking for are ways to maintain a mostly POSIX compliant system that is based on the Linux kernel and still has a good desktop experience. I hope that I will be able to do that with Debian as I've been using Debian for right at 15 years and am most familiar and comfortable with it. I wade through these threads looking for those tidbits of information that are helpful to that end. I am also a maintainer/developer of two small upstream projects that are in Debian and I value quite highly the quality and stability offered by the Debian Project. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140921123937.gc4...@n0nb.us
