Am Freitag, 21. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
> On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> > Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no
> > gain)  to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want
> > -and we can be wrong or right as we don't have all the details over
> > the table- but it's rather discourteous to tell a user about what
> > you estimate his/her skills are or aren't. That's simply out of
> > place.
> 
> I disagree.  This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a
> primary technical support resource.  People should be making at least a
> cursory effort to search for information before asking here.

Stan, I agree on this. 

I consider it disrespectful if someone asks me without having made any 
effort to solve the question by some quick search or so. And I also tell 
people this. Why? Cause I do not like being treated like a unpaid 
community Debian / Linux support slave. (Yes, sometimes I felt like that, 
but then thats also my own problem, cause if I do not like to answer, I 
can simply ignore the question and be done with it.)

But all this said:

I think there are less hurtful ways to express that.

And here, a short answer with a clear request to do some own research next 
time, takes less time than a personal attack and dealing with its 
consequences.

When I learned one thing in mailing lists, its that I better stay away 
from any sort of attacking a person. I try look at the behavior, not the 
person. Cause I would not  like to be attacked either.

Ciao,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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