On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 14:43 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 07:22:50AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > > Believing what I read at Arch-general mailing list, configuring systemd
> > > will be in some kind of irrational secret language.
> > 
> > An example:
> > [Unit]
> > Description=[u] Static Interface [%I]
> > StopWhenUnneeded=true
> > Wants=network.target
> > Before=network.target
> > BindTo=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> > After=sys-subsystem-net-devices-%i.device
> > After=basic.target
> 
> So this is a standard INI-style configuration format.  It's used
> by a lot of software since it's clear and simple.
> 
> > I see that %I is supposed to stand for eth0; how do I connect this
> > with eth0?
> 
> Don't know about this specific case, but presumably it's a generic
> template which can be resused for multiple network interfaces.
> 
> systemd has lots of legitimate criticisms, but its configuration
> file format is not one of them.  A straightforward declarative
> format is vastly more robust and maintainable than a motley
> collection of imperative shell scripts.  There's simply no
> argument on that point.  If we could use the same (or a subset)
> of the format in sysvinit, I'd certainly look at that.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Roger

Hi Roger :)

on Arch-General there's a discussion on a state that I can't say if some
people are serious or ironically [1].
However, some misunderstandings are clarified :). E.g. we don't need to
use "Before" and "After", we just need to use one of them.

Regards,
Ralf

[1] This is just one thread about systemd, there are several threads.
Btw. no flame war, we're sometimes unkind, but nothing more.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Systemd : Analysis of reactions of Users
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 11:13:42 -0500

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM, M. wrote:

>  On 26/07/12 16:35, N. wrote:
>
>> The 26/07/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 11:57 +0200, D. wrote:
>>>
>>> By the way ...
>>>>
>>> ... is there the need to improve something that already works
>>>
>> As I've already said, it does NOT work. Systems based on init scripts
>> are BROKEN because some of them scripts won't give you any chance to
>> catch all the failures.
>>
>> Instead of fixing such problems we need something new that's broken
too?
>

NEW IS ALWAYS BETTER



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