On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Joel Rees <joel.r...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/30/12, Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf >>> <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I hate pulseaudio, but I could imagine that systemd anyway could have >>>> some advantages, even if it's from a man (boy) who often takes photos >>>> from himself in front of a mirror and then publish this snapshots in the >>>> Internet. >>> >>> Is there a relationship between taking your own picture in a mirror >>> and developing software? >> >> I, personally, recognize a certain ironic connection, particularly in >> relation to Poettering. I'll leave it to the list readers who care, to >> understand or misunderstand what I mean. (Not sure discussing it >> belongs here, but I can understand why Ralf might want to bring it >> up.) >> >> I don't know what brings Tom H here, but I am becoming more active >> here precisely because of systemd. Well, that, and SELinux. Too many >> changes too fast, too many of them shifting from stable techniques >> known to work in *nix environments to experimental implementations of >> techniques that are known to be primary underlying factors of many of >> the technical issues in the monoculture/world-domination OS. >> >> I don't, for example, dare try Fedora as an alternative to the ancient >> Mac OS X on the ancient but still viable iBook that my sister uses to >> keep in touch with the family. I have absolutely no confidence that I >> would be able to do the remote administration she needs done every now >> and then. >> >> (Fedora 13 or 14 would still have worked, fwiw.) >> >> There are both technical and political issues here that go way beyond >> the scope of this thread in debian-user, beyond a simple word to the >> wise: >> >> Be very, very careful with systemd. > > I have absolutely no idea why I'm subscribed and post to d-u! ;) > > If you have genuine technical reasons for being wary of systemd, fine! > If you have an emotional negative reaction to Lennart Poettering, then > your "carefulness" is silly. The reiserfs developer's a convicted > murderer, that didn't make reiserfs technically inferior overnight. > (Please note that I've never used reiserfs, so I don't care either > way.)
There a genuine reasons for sysvinit to be improved or replaced, as explained by "one of the sysvinit package maintainers in Debian": http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/02/msg01043.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SybyN1pjzaCXFzJ48NNxL5nbq9fAcvh-=ey0yiuyz0...@mail.gmail.com