On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner <s...@hardwarefreak.com> wrote: > Tom H put forth on 5/31/2010 1:04 AM: > >> I have gone through various big changes in OSs, WinNT to Win2k, OS9 to >> OSX (although I was a Sol-Lin admin too so it wasn't as great a shock >> as for Mac-only admins [1. see OT anecdote below]), Sol8 to Sol10 and >> they created more dislocation than a bootloader change. At the risk of >> sounding like a late-night infomercial (!), a smooth transition from >> lilo to grub2 is just a question of being positive (the un-unwanted >> and un-unneeded of above) - and putting in some work (the learning >> curve of above) of course. > > From a seasoned sysadmin perspective, a "vendor" forced change away from > something as critical as a bootloader, causes immediate push back. In LILO's > current state, and given the way I run kernels, I could likely used LILO 22.8 > for the next 10 years without a problem, without any code changes. So it > doesn't matter to me if it's currently maintained or not. > > The reason grub2 is being forced upon us all is the need of the "desktop" > users who want a 20MB kitchen sink kernel and initrd that will support any > piece of hardware on any machine they throw at it. Many sysadmins don't want > or need that, and we're being forced to change our bootloader due to the > perceived needs of others. > > LILO isn't broken and it works well enough for may folks such as myself. We > should have the option of keeping it, as an installable package, until _we_ > feel we need to change to something else. It's as much a philosophical issue > as it is a practical one. There is no legitimate reason LILO can't be left in > the distro as an optional package, just as it is now with Lenny. > > It's difficult to be "positive" when unnecessary change is being forced down > one's throat.
Don't you think that lilo will be left in the repos but not available at install time? You could then install lilo post-OS-install or through pre-seeding. > Thanks for the tips below. I'll be hanging onto them until/if they're needed. >> grub2 basics--> You're welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilnprnvodjzhoklujnoyji10zvdjsy-igxp7...@mail.gmail.com