Yes, you CAN upgrade individual system components on Debian (or any
Linux/UNIX), but it's not really that simple, as you can't, for instance,
download "Debian etch" .debs of Xorg 7.2 (for instance).

Also, with my suggestion with respect to point releases - I don't mean
backporting *everything* - mainly the components that improve hardware
support (the kernel,Xorg, etc).  I actually don't mind the current Debian
release cycle - it's just the fact that often, the release can be hard to
use on newer hardware.



On 7/27/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tim Hull wrote:
>
> > On a side note, I will say that the one area I think FOSS lags behind
> > Windows and Mac is in updating individual system components.  I LIKE
> being
> > able to update a few things without hackish solutions (i.e. build from
> > source tarballs) or updating my whole system. You can do it easily on
> > Mac/Windows, but it's quite difficult and unreliable on nearly every
> > distribution.
>
> IIUC, you are comparing apples and oranges.
>
> Think of it this way. If the glibc (and certain similar packages) is not
> upgraded, then installing individual packages is possible even in Linux
> (be
> it via stable or via backports). This is the kind of situation you have in
> windows/mac etc., where the core system is not upgraded (you always run
> windows XP) and you install additional software on top of it. This is what
> backports try to do. From your email, I assume you are well aware of its
> functionality and limitations.
>
> >  I think Debian really ought to look into making backports
> > an official project and integrating it into the stable release as a way
> to
> > get updates on an as-needed basis.
>
> Making backports official would be a good idea. However if it delays the
> release of next stable branch, then I am not a big fan of it.
>
> > It may even be an interesting idea to do
> > point releases of stable with some backports included.
>
> What about security support? Windows/Mac do not provide any security
> support
> for all the individual packages that a user installs. Having official
> backports or point releases as you call it is useless unless there is
> security support. I think providing security support for all the point
> releases needs quite a bit of man power.
>
> hth
> raju
>
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